Kara Swisher · 1:01:48
Lifetime. Anyway, for the rest of you listeners, it's time for this week's Threads poll. The question this week is, who would make a better Halloween costume, Kara or Scott? Oh, obviously, Bonus points if you send us your pictures dressed up as one of us. We get a lot of that. That's interesting. Or someone interesting that we'll find interesting, go to our threads account at pivot podcast official to vote.
Scott Galloway · 1:02:09
What's your Halloween costume this year?
Kara Swisher · 1:02:11
I'm going as Kara Swisher again as I do every year. It's really great.
Scott Galloway · 1:02:14
Mhmm.
Kara Swisher · 1:02:15
You know? I've given up. I've given... Anyway, if you've got a question of your own and you would like answered, send it our way. Go to nymag.com/pivot to submit a question for the show, or call 85551 Alright, Scott. One more quick break. We'll be back for predictions.
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Kara Swisher · 1:03:58
Okay, Scott. Let's hear a prediction besides the fact that you will have an epic Halloween costume like you did last year where you went as Deadpool.
Scott Galloway · 1:04:06
Yeah. But you didn't ask me. You you keep forgetting. When I ask you questions, I... It's just... I'm not interested in you. I just want you to ask me.
Kara Swisher · 1:04:12
Oh, that's I forgot. I've... I... You know what? I just thought of that as I was going into the commercial break.
Scott Galloway · 1:04:18
Last year, I went as Deadpool after the fire. I had a makeup artist do my skirt. I looked amazing.
Kara Swisher · 1:04:23
You did.
Scott Galloway · 1:04:24
This year, I'm going... It's not... The costume isn't as good, but it's kinda funny. I'm going as Richard Simmons, which I'm really excited about.
Kara Swisher · 1:04:29
Oh, wow. Mean, shorty shorts?
Scott Galloway · 1:04:31
I have these gold, very short dolphin shorts. Oh, wow. But here's the problem.
Kara Swisher · 1:04:37
I think that's the problem, seeing you in shorty shorts. But go ahead.
Scott Galloway · 1:04:40
That's where I would really kick in as a woman. I'd have amazing legs if I were a woman. Anyways, the the... God. Can you imagine what beautiful children I'd have with that center from the Minnesota Lynx? She and I would have spectacular children.
Kara Swisher · 1:04:55
Okay.
Scott Galloway · 1:04:55
Anyways Oh, god. I found out, Tom Selleck in the first season of Magnum PI was the exact same height and weight as me. He was six two one ninety, but I look much different in shorts than him, and I just can't figure it out. I just can't figure it out.
Kara Swisher · 1:05:11
Are you wearing the wig? You're wearing the wig.
Scott Galloway · 1:05:13
Oh, come on. Come on. Halloween, how could you have invented a better holiday for me? I get to wear a wig and women dress up as sloths. Oh my god. Let's have Halloween every month.
Kara Swisher · 1:05:26
I know. You love to... You love a costume. You really go all out. I do not. I do not. I don't like it at all. I don't like it
Scott Galloway · 1:05:32
at all. I love Halloween. Oh, I love it. I absolutely... And by the way, just do me a favor when... Because you're going in as yourself, when people ask you what you're supposed to be, look at them and begin to cry and say, I was supposed to be a lot of things. That's good.
Kara Swisher · 1:05:49
That is good. I love it. Oh, thank you. I finally have
Scott Galloway · 1:05:52
an answer.
Kara Swisher · 1:05:53
Have an answer. Alright. Let's hear a prediction now.
Scott Galloway · 1:05:55
Okay. So, look, I don't think this is gonna come as a shocker in anyone... Anybody, but I am officially endorsing Harris Walls for president and vice president. And my prediction is that a Harris administration would be would be much better for young men. And I believe that young men are some of the last available swing voters because they don't traditionally vote. When they get excited, they vote. They almost always... Or they disproportionately vote, at least until recently, for Democrats. So I believe the new kind of the swing voters are young men. And this is why I think young men would be better served voting for Vice President Harris, and that I encourage them to do so. And that is, I think everybody needs a code, whether it's from your religion, whether it's from the armed services, whether it's from your company. Everybody needs an anchor to hold onto and guide the millions of decisions they have to make in a complicated world. And I increasingly believe that young men can call on, or what I'm hoping they can develop as a new code, is a modern form of masculinity. And those three things are the following, being a provider, a protector, and a procreator. And I wanna go through each of these and why I believe the Harris administration and policies would enable men to foot to those.
Kara Swisher · 1:07:08
I like this. By the way, the Washington Post has yet to make one. Jeff Bezos, get off your ass and make one. But go ahead. I love that you're doing it, Scott.
Scott Galloway · 1:07:15
There you go. Okay. So provider. I think a decent place for any man to start is to take economic responsibility for for his household. Now that doesn't mean that you're gonna get in the way of your wife or your partner who might be better at that money thing. When my partner was at Goldman Sachs and making more money than me, I tried to pick up the slack at home and not be threatened by it. And that is also taking economic responsibility. But a good starting point is that recognizing three in four women see economic viability as key to a mate. It's only one in four men about women. Unfortunately, I'm not talking about the way the world should be, but the way it is, men are disproportionately evaluated on their economic viability. You need to be a provider. And under the Harris administration, you're talking about an economic strategy that everyone from Goldman Sachs to basically every living Nobel Prize winner economics is going to say is going to winner is going to result in greater growth. And with the Trump administration as a young man, you are talking about what will effectively be the greatest tax increase in history on you, and it's the following. It'll be a deficit that will be triple than what would be under the Harris administration. Why is the deficit the biggest tax in history on you? Because Kara Swisher and Scott Galloway will not be alive to pay back that deficit. You will have to pay it back. So what young people haven't connected the dots on is that deficit spending is nothing but a tax on them such that I can have champagne and cocaine now. You're gonna have to pay it back, not me. There are a variety of different economic plans, whether it's a housing credit, whether it's loans for small businesses that are meant to put more money in the pockets of young people, specifically young men, and enable you to be a better provider, protector. Your default setting as a man should be one of protection. You don't need to understand the nuance around illegal or undocumented workers. But when you see them being demonized, your default setting should be to move to protection. You don't need to understand or agree with the trans community. But when you see them being demonized, your default should be as a protector. Real men break up fights in bars. They don't start them. Real men protect their country. They don't shitpost it. Harrison Walls have a much greater default setting around protection, and I especially think vice president Walls presents a wonderful image as a man being a protector. And that is... And I love the story of him hearing about the LGBT community at his high school feeling bullied and him enacting the football team to come to their aid. That is exactly what it means to be a man, to be a protector. And then finally, procreator, the most rewarding thing in life, and I'm not saying you have to do this to be happy, but the most rewarding thing I know in your life, Kara, and in my life has been raising children with a competent, loving partner. And I did not, when I saw my partner, the mother of my children at the Raleigh Hotel at the pool, I was not thinking that she'd be great at buying distressed properties and fixing them up, or she'd be a good person to save for a four zero one k. I had one thought, and that is I would really, really like to have sex with this person. And wanting to have sex with women and being successful at it and figuring out the nuance and the skills and the strength and the humor and showering and enduring the rejection and being funny and being kind such that you can have sex with women is a wonderful thing, and it's something you should be proud of. And your ability your ability to be attractive to women will be easier under a Harris administration. And if I did a survey around would young men like to have more or less sex, I'm pretty sure the vast majority of them would say, I would like to have more sex. And if you wanna have more sex, if you wanna have more sex, then we absolutely need to cauterize, reject, and turn around this ridiculous notion that women are gonna have their bodily autonomy taken. Because if you wanna have random sex... And let's be clear, the majority of relationships involve at some point maybe a little bit of alcohol and a little bit of random sex. If the woman is thinking about random sex and then says, you know what? I might be in an emergency room parking lot unable to terminate a pregnancy even if I have sepsis because the doctor might go to jail. If I have to carry an unwanted pregnancy to term, both you and her are gonna be economically disabled. The fastest way to have less sex is to let more people get on the Supreme Court and to take away a woman's bodily autonomy. So, guys, you wanna get laid more? Make sure women have bodily autonomy. Let's review.
Kara Swisher · 1:11:30
Okay.
Scott Galloway · 1:11:30
Your ability to be a provider. I'm very serious about this shit. I know. I wonderful thing. And the notion of kids... Young people are having less sex, it is terrible. And it is a wonderful thing. And the notion that you and your partner have to be much more thoughtful and scared of actually having sex is terrible for everybody. One, your ability to be a provider, economic policies that make it easier for you to be economically responsible for your household, two, a default setting around being a provider, and three, your ability to form a family at your pace with economic responsibility through bodily autonomy. All of these add up to vice president Harris being nominated, and elected for our president. So if you are a young man, I would encourage you to lean into your code around masculinity, and those... That code leads to one place, and that is a Harris administration.
Kara Swisher · 1:12:24
Wow. That is... I have not heard that one. If you want to have sex, vote Harris. I like it. That's what we're saying. Correct?
Scott Galloway · 1:12:31
There you go.
Kara Swisher · 1:12:32
If I had to boil it down. Alright. That's an interesting and novel, thing. I just like her. That's why I'm voting for her. So I just like her. I like him, And I'm so fucking sick of the way, these tech... The the toxic tech bros, which were affiliated with Trump. I I hate... This toxicity has to end. That's my thing. So that's just it. But I like if you wanna have sex with O'Harais. I think it's a compelling, compelling argument, and I think she should make it at the ellipse, when she is there. She said no more insurrection. A lot more sex. Thank you, Scott Galloway.
Scott Galloway · 1:13:06
100%.
Kara Swisher · 1:13:07
That would be it.
Scott Galloway · 1:13:07
100%. It's a wonderful thing. Young people need to have more of it.
Kara Swisher · 1:13:10
I understand that. And for more, this... You get... I have to say pound for pound. You give a lot of really good content, Scott Galloway. Just not as much as Drew Barrymore.
Scott Galloway · 1:13:19
But I don't look good in shorts.
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Kara Swisher · 1:13:20
Okay. No. But we'll see. We'll see. I'm sure a lot of that, unfortunately, for me. For more in the Cara and Scott universe this week, which which is growing. It's growing. It's expanding. We're an expanding universe. Scott, you talked about perseverance with the famous perseverance writer, Angela Duckworth, over at the Prophecy Pod. Let's listen to a clip of that.
Guest · 1:13:38
Where does that inner self talk come from that says, you know, I'll show you? Right? Because I think if there was one phrase that I have heard over and over again in interviews of the grittiest people, it's that when they describe confronting a major challenge, especially when they're doubted, right, and and someone else tells them, like, well, you can't do this. You know, there is this rage, this, like, voice that says, I'll show you. And my theory is that being in one challenging situation after another is not enough to give you the voice that says, I'll show you. Somewhere, there has to be support. I think I've seen it too often, you know, that people who are in challenging situations without support, you know, are not the ones to get up again, dust themselves off, like, something, you know, come back stronger than they were before.
Kara Swisher · 1:14:31
I'll show you. I... That's that's guided everything in my life.
Scott Galloway · 1:14:34
I'll show you.
Kara Swisher · 1:14:35
I do. That's... I have to say. I love I love her. I love Angela Duckworth. She wrote grit, obviously. But I'll show you has been a big fucking really? Uh-huh. Okay. Okay. Okay. That's what I do. I like.
Scott Galloway · 1:14:48
There you go.
Kara Swisher · 1:14:48
Yeah. We're both gritty, I think, in a lot of ways. Okay. Scott, that's the show. We'll be back on Tuesday with more pivot and obviously more news. We are bearing bearing down on the election. It'll be very... It'll be a a week from Tuesday. Incredible. Incredible when we come back. Anyway, please read us out.
Scott Galloway · 1:15:05
Today's show was produced by Lara Nayman Zui Markus and Taylor Griffin. Ernie and Jatot engineered this episode. Thanks also to Jubrows, miss Severio, and Dan Shulan. Nishat Kurwa is Vox Media's executive producer of audio. Make sure you subscribe to the show wherever you listen to podcasts. Thanks for listening to Pivot from New York Magazine and Vox Media. You can subscribe to the magazine at nymag.com/pod. We'll be back next week for another breakdown of all things tech and business. What is a good default code? Protector, provider, procreator.
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