Kara Swisher · 40:15
Just because he he wanted to sort of get the aid back in some way, but now he's like, fuck it. Like, I don't care. This is what's going on here. So the fact that the the the... One of the other world's richest men is spending $200,000,000,000 worth of money in stuff that the US government should be doing. And the fact that he's calling on Elon,
Speaker · 40:33
I thought it was good for Gates. Good for Gates.
Kara Swisher · 40:36
Because I I was worried he was sort of modulating himself in a way that I know he doesn't think. So what do you think about this?
Scott Galloway · 40:43
There's a popular saying that, a society grows great when old men plant trees in whose shade they know they shall never sit. And Elon Musk is is cutting down these trees. And America has been planting trees, the shade of which we will never ever sit under. George Bush with... I think it was Pepfar, he saved tens of millions of people by making a huge investment in rallying really competent people to try and distribute cocktail... AIDS cocktail drugs to people in Africa. I... That had no impact on me other than it was nice that we had the ability to do it, and we used our scale and our strength and our expertise and our science and our universities to do that. Elon Musk is doing the opposite. He's cutting down the trees, the shade of which he will never sin under, because his attitude is if it's not providing me with shade, I don't give a fuck. And I'll call it... I'll say that I'm in... I'm saving money for the government.
Kara Swisher · 41:37
To go to Mars. Mars is what we really need to do so we
Scott Galloway · 41:40
can When
Kara Swisher · 41:40
you make save
Scott Galloway · 41:41
There are certain investments where if you make a small amount of investment, and $75,000,000,000 is not a lot when you look at the world's issues, you can allocate that capital to places of such need that a little bit of money has enormous ROI.
Kara Swisher · 41:56
Well, this is 200,000,000,000, Scott, from Gates.
Scott Galloway · 41:59
No. I'm talking about USA at 75,000,000,000. My point is I think Gates, who's one of the most brilliant people and also, I think later in life, as you would hope from a man, really developed a great deal of empathy. He thought, okay. What could I do with my $250,000,000,000 in wealth? I could create other great companies. I could build the biggest VC firm in the world. I could decide who gets to be president or who doesn't. And he said, at the margin of the efficient frontier, I can save tens of millions of lives because one small pill that staves off or prevents a case of malaria is not that expensive in certain regions of the world.
Kara Swisher · 42:38
Or netting or whatever. He was doing all kinds of different things. Toilets.
Scott Galloway · 42:41
He spent a bunch of money on toilets. He's like, it's not romantic, but if I can bring safe potable water and sanitation to certain regions, I will literally save millions of children who otherwise would have died of dysentery.
Kara Swisher · 42:51
He's a complex guy and and not... Listen. He was a very difficult person. I was there when he was younger and kind of a jerk. He was a jerk. And all kinds of stuff he's done that is not great in lots of ways. At the same time, the transformation of this person into this kind of philanthropy is really something to see. And the fact that... Listen. It's not... It's no small risk for him to call out Musk, who has been, by the way, attacking him relentlessly with fake stuff around vaccines. Musk was one and Twitter has been the purveyor of this nonsense that Gates is putting chips inside of people's heads. All kinds of... Like, through the vaccine. And I... The the fact that this... Musk, all he does is make trouble for this guy and insult him and and create all kinds of miss... Dangerous misinformation about him. And then I'm glad he did this. I'm glad he said it because it's what he thinks.
Scott Galloway · 43:46
Just real quick. One one one of the one of the most wonderful things about America's society is we have created a complexion or gestalt in our society where typically as you become more powerful, there's an onus in an environment that encourages you to evolve, to become kinder. Bill Gates has become kinder. I think guys like Marc Benioff and Brian Chesky and even, you know, I I interviewed Melinda French Gates. You can tell as they've gotten more powerful, they really take it very seriously that I need to evolve as a person. I need to become kinder. The worst thing that can happen in a society is we create a gestalt that, okay, once I become president or once I become the wealthiest man in the world, I digress. I become an even bigger asshole. I become even more damaging to the world. And it's not an... I gotta think quite frankly, and this is more of a philosophical question. What is it about our society where we are evolving this new species of man in The United States where as they become more powerful... Even the robber barons who were not nice people, once they achieved a certain level of power, they did flip the switch and think, how can I build big projects and big universities that would help society? And these guys are not thinking that way.
Kara Swisher · 44:57
Only someone had a book coming out in November that discussed what kind of men wish be. Go on.
Scott Galloway · 45:03
It's more a discussion of what kind of man you shouldn't be. It's a sort of
Kara Swisher · 45:07
a You're telling it. Anyway, we... We've gotta go on a quick break. When we come back, we'll talk about Disney and Uber's latest earnings. But good for you, Bill Gates. Good for you.
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Kara Swisher · 47:18
Scott, we're back. Disney is out with its latest earnings. I'd love to hear what you think about this. The company reported $23,000,000,000 in revenue, up 7% from a year ago, and $3,200,000,000 in net income, a big turnaround from the net loss of $20,000,000 last year. These numbers were fueled by higher streaming profit that seems to be doing well. Good bet by Bob Iger. Domestic theme parks and home video sales of Moana two. I can tell you, I've watched it a 109,000 times. And speaking of theme parks, Disney has also announced plans for its... A new park in Abu Dhabi. That makes sense. Its seventh theme park resort. I thought they had one there. I don't know why. Disney is often seen as a bellwether for consumer confidence. These numbers tell you consumers aren't too worried, or is it just another Convors from earnings report? I'm gonna add in Uber's earnings too. The company reported $11,500,000,000 in revenue, up 14% year over year. Good. Not a huge company, but a good solid revenue, but slightly below Wall Street's expectations. Total bookings grew 14% to 42,000,000,000. That's the amount. And then they have to take out blah blah blah. They they have to pay drivers, etcetera. Uber has also just announced a joint venture with Chinese self driving car company, Pony AI, to roll out robo taxis in Mid... Middle East markets. It looks like Uber is becoming the partner for all these things like Waymo and what Pony AI is doing around the world. So I'd love to hear what you what you think about, and then we have another listener prediction around earnings. But first, Disney and then Uber.
Scott Galloway · 48:39
Well, Uber Uber just sort of barely missed expectations. I would argue they met expectations. And what's interesting about Uber is their relationship with all the... They're striking up with all these different autonomous driving company. It feels like there's an old Hemingway line. How did you go bankrupt? Gradually, then suddenly is the answer. It feels like the autonomous wars have been slow, and now it feels like it's about... We're on the eve of war among, autonomous, whether it's Uber doing deals, Waymo. At some point, Musk will enter. It feels like autonomous.
Kara Swisher · 49:08
Waymo and Uber have a deal. Like, because they're the reservation system. Like, that's
Scott Galloway · 49:12
what The front end.
Kara Swisher · 49:13
I've always thought Uber was the reservation system for someone.
Scott Galloway · 49:16
And they don't go see the consumer, and you're used to you're used to just booking a car on them. But I... That's what I took away from the Uber earnings, but I didn't I didn't think they're that interesting. The more... Really, more interesting one was the surprise of the upside from Disney, and that is their stock popped 10. It's at... After really touching kind of ten year lows, Revenue up 7%. The Disney plus not only raised prices, but grew their subscriber base, which a lot of us weren't expecting. Hulu added over 1,000,000 subscribers. But the real story here is that I think, strategically, they remain very smart. Because what are they doing? They're leaning into their core advantage and point of differentiation, and that's its Parks business. Parks was mentioned five times more in this earnings call than the prior quarter's call because they realized that Netflix isn't opening a park. Alpha... Meta can... It takes ten years, twenty years maybe to build a park like this.
Kara Swisher · 50:10
Comcast is their competitor.
Scott Galloway · 50:11
Their cruise line is killing it. And they also realized, quite frankly, there were probably always gonna be a distant two or three, maybe, if they're lucky in streaming, but they can be number one and command unfair margins in their parks unit. And their parks unit is just killing it. And to Bob Iger's credit, this was this was the strongest earnings call Disney has had in a long time, and that is, okay. The streaming is no longer a sinkhole of capital, and we are. We... Our parks business, which is truly differentiated and singular, is killing it. So good good for them.
Kara Swisher · 50:49
Yeah. I think he's... And then we'll see who he takes over. But he... He's, you know, he's a pro. This man is a pro. Okay, Scott. While we're on the topic of earnings, let's hear for another prediction from a listener. This one about the economy. Let's play it. By the way, our listeners are so smart.
Speaker · 51:03
Hi, Kara and Scott. This is Rich, an American living in Germany since 2016. My prediction is that The US falls into a recession, possibly even worse than 2008. On the consumer side, tariffs push prices even higher after years of inflation, crushing demands. Businesses cut jobs even more than they are already due to tariffs and AI. Then on the credit side, investors demand higher yields after we voluntarily drive our economy off a cliff. Unlike 2008 though, the Fed can't just cut rates in a stagflationary environment. We're stuck in a vicious cycle or as Karen knows..
Scott Galloway · 51:52
Scott,
Kara Swisher · 51:53
this is this is... You know, most people are... Can't tell if we're gonna run into this recessionary environment. It it certainly feels like that's what we're being set up for unless he does something. I mean, he... This is self self inflicted, of course.
Scott Galloway · 52:06
Well, there's there's sort of the known unknowns and then the unknown unknowns, And it's usually the unknown unknowns that that get you. But in terms of the known unknowns, the fulcrum here about whether we probably go into a recession or over stagflation is this nonsense around around tariffs and what happens. If anything resembling the proposed tariffs actually sticks, you're gonna see an increase in inflation, an increase in interest rates, and a decline in the economy. The word for that that most young people don't know is stagflation. When you have stagflation, when the economy's shrinking, even as interest rates go up, which is the worst of... That's, you know, that's nitro and glycerin for an economy, you have to sacrifice jobs and massively increase interest rates because basically, typically, what the Fed says is we will opt for lower or higher unemployment versus higher inflation. That's the real danger. In my opinion, if we go into recession, that's that's something that's supposed to happen every seven years. It brings down prices. Quite frankly, it gives young people over the medium term a little bit of an opportunity to buy into assets at a lower price. I don't think recession is the worst thing that could happen to us. If you look at the Fed's notes or or Chairman Powell's notes yesterday, he essentially said, we're in a bit of a vibe session. And Kyla Scanlon, who I love, this young woman who does a ton of great work on economics. Essentially, consumer confidence is at a low since COVID. The uncertainty index is at a high since the eighties. But if you look at the underlying data, if you look at employment, if you look at retail sales, if you look at spending, quite frankly, the economy still looks pretty strong right now. And so he he kept interest rates flat. So this is all about in the short term unless... You know, if... Look. If there's a nuclear detonation on the on the Indian Pakistani border, all bets are off. Right? But in terms of where we are economically right now, the fulcrum or the arbiter will be just how fucking insane, how down crazy road we travel with these with these tariffs. So we'll see. But the thing I'm most scared of is not a recession. I actually think that recessions... I think we're due for not an extended recession. Housing prices and stock prices need to come down such that people like you and me, Kara, maybe transfer a little bit of our wealth and create some opportunity for younger people who wanna buy their own homes and buy their own stocks. I don't think that'd be the worst thing in the world. What would be nearly the worst thing for the economy would be a spike in interest rates as the economy goes goes down. And the thing... What's so interesting is any economist under the age of 50 doesn't even know the word stagflation. They don't even think it can happen. It can happen. It happened in the seventies.
Kara Swisher · 54:47
It's like a horror movie stagflation. I feel like Besson's got the upper hand here, Besson and Rubio, over the crazies, I think. I suspect a little bit more.
Scott Galloway · 54:56
It's the ten year. It's the bond. If the bond market starts spiking, they all freak out.
Kara Swisher · 55:00
They all freak out. You're in tough size. With the tear... With having to do with Trump's crazy, he seems a little more willing to deal besides himself, self deal. In any case, we'll see. We'll see. Great. Great. Thank you so much, Rich. That was really great. Very quickly, the new Meta, AI app is creepy according to a detailed account in the Washington Post. Speaking of of these AI stuff that were meta, probably will dominate in many ways, the app assures personalized AI and delivers via personal information from Facebook and Instagram and memory files where details about users are kept. Jeffrey Fowler, who wrote the post, the article found his memory file contained interests like natural fertility techniques, divorce, and payday loans. Also feeds conversations back about Meta's AI training system without an option to opt out. I... Like, I know you're saying they're gonna dominate. There is... The thing I worry about... You always say, oh, I loaded this up. I loaded that up. And I'm always like, I'm not loading my stuff up. You know? And you can pay a little more to chat GPT so they don't train on your data, and they allegedly protect it. I would not load up, like, what I ate for lunch yesterday to Meta. I have to say. I mean, except for Instagram and threads, which I use largely for marketing, I gotta say, I'm not loading a damn thing up to this person because of the way it was used and the lack of any guardrails. I I would never use their AI app. I don't know how you feel about it, but you're very... You're much more promiscuous in loading up your information. So
Scott Galloway · 56:28
Yeah. My attitude is violate my privacy as long as I can see that my q x 60 is one minute away. I I could just get high. I could just eat edibles and order Ubers and watch how close my car is. I find it fucking fascinating. I'm like, why is he making a right turn on Broome? Doesn't he know where he's going?
Kara Swisher · 56:42
Maps to see.
Scott Galloway · 56:43
I find that shit fascinating. And, occasionally, I have a moment. I'm like, how do they know? Like, I... You know? How do they know I have prostateitis? How are they know... I mean, I find this shit fascinating.
Kara Swisher · 56:53
Mine is food porn, like people making food, tool tips, tip... Like, little hacks, hardware hacks, and Mission Impossible Mission Impossible, Dockers, which is coming out May 23, and I'm going by myself. Just so everybody knows, do not speak to me on May 23. I'm going to see the final reckoning, and I'm gonna probably see it twice. But go ahead, Scott. So so what do you think about this this this app? Are you gonna use it? You probably will.
Scott Galloway · 57:20
Look. I am... I do a talk. I was just in Hamburg, Germany, and I do a talk on... Everyone want... Everyone wanted to know... Had two... You know, questions really around two topics in the q and a. What the fuck is going on in America? And they wanna know about AI. And I've said, I'm an AI optimist for the most part. I don't think it's gonna turn on us. I don't see any reason why AI can't be used to create defensive measures against offensive measures. I don't think it's ever gonna become sentient. I think the short run, it'll destroy jobs. But like every other technology, it'll create, in my opinion, more jobs than it destroys over the medium and the long term. The biggest threat of AI is that it's going to speedball loneliness, and that is I'm I'm frustrated. I can't... I don't have friends. I I can't figure out the social pecking order. I I am really upset. I don't have a girlfriend, so I have this incredible AI girlfriend that's a mix of porn, and maybe I even have an AI robot slash sex doll, and I never develop the skills or take the risk to establish a romantic relationship. And this is the fear. This is what young men have fighting against them, is they have the deepest pocketed, most talented people in the world trying to convince them they can have a reasonable facsimile of life with no human contact. You need you need the community.
Kara Swisher · 58:36
So you're not concerned with loading your stuff, which is my question.
Scott Galloway · 58:40
Well, okay. It's too late for me. And not only that, quite frankly, I have economic security and people who love me unconditionally. So I... I'm there. I'm at the promised land. What I'm worried about is young men who are struggling to find a connection to school, to work, or to other people and get a reasonable facsimile of that dope a hit that you get from a relationship from Reddit, Discord, porn, Robin Hood. Oh, I'm I'm not gambling. I'm investing. And they spend all of their time in their basement never going through the hardship of trying to make relationships work.
Kara Swisher · 59:11
Let me say. We have to move on, but Scott every... Scott will be everybody's friend... Next friend. Just so you know, Scott is everybody's friend. I'm very unfriendly, but Scott will be everybody's friend. Okay. I'm not using that app. That's all I'm saying. Alright, Scott. One more quick break. We'll be back for predictions, including one more listener prediction.
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Kara Swisher · 1:01:38
Scott, we're back. We're gonna do a prediction now, Scott. I'm gonna do a very brief one. They're giving out Golden Globes for best podcast next year. I think we need to win even though we're not in the top 20... You have to be in the top 25 to be in it. We have to get to the top 25
Scott Galloway · 1:01:52
most listened?
Kara Swisher · 1:01:53
Yes. Apparently. Some It's a tough
Scott Galloway · 1:01:55
crazy right wingers that are in the top 25.
Kara Swisher · 1:01:57
I know that. Exactly. So we need to we need to love
Scott Galloway · 1:02:00
to top 25 revenue? Because the thing is the people who listen to those people don't have any money unless they're, like, looking for dental implants or, like, trucker hats. What about the top 25 in terms of revenue?
Kara Swisher · 1:02:09
So we need to kiss up to the Golden Globe people, all those foreign press
Scott Galloway · 1:02:13
Let's threaten to tariff them. Let's threaten to tariff awards ceremonies.
Kara Swisher · 1:02:16
We wanna come... We are so much fun at a party. We would have such a... We would be so good at a Golden Globe. We will drink. We will cause problems, etcetera, etcetera.
Scott Galloway · 1:02:24
So much is doing a lot of work there, but okay. You fall asleep on
Kara Swisher · 1:02:27
the couch.
Scott Galloway · 1:02:27
Everyone's wondering who the nine year old boy is asleep on the couch, and everyone's like, who's the guy just at the bar who won't leave?
Kara Swisher · 1:02:34
That's correct. And as I said, I will be at Mission Impossible. One thing I will... I'm gonna do a quick prediction. I was talking to the people at Aurora, which is the self driving trucks.
Scott Galloway · 1:02:45
Truck.
Kara Swisher · 1:02:45
Right. Everyone's focused on self driving cars, but these driverless runs of trucks, they're now going on every day between Dallas and Houston. I just think that's something that isn't focused in on. They hauled pastries. The first driverless hauled transported pastries. This is an area nobody's paying attention to. I think that is the real money is is that kind of stuff, because that's where it's gonna be... That's where we really do need these these driverless things going on. And and I'm I'm excited by the driverless cars in cities. I am personally, but I think that's where the big money is gonna be. That's where you should be focusing in on if you're interested in the sector. Alright, Scott. Make a prediction.
Scott Galloway · 1:03:25
This first hundred days of the Trump administration, mostly using the vehicle of the Trump coin, will go down in history as the greatest grift in the history of our economy in terms of the amount of money stolen and the size of it over the shortest period. Just some just some data here. So Trump affiliated entities have made at least $300,000,000. This is distinct to the value of his stake in Trump coin and trading fees. The Trump family's net worth has increased by $3,000,000,000 or $1,000,000,000 a month since he took he took office. Just some timeline, the Trump coin launched on a Friday night under cover of dark with all the news about the inauguration. By 3AM on Sunday, it was valued at more than 70,000,000,000, and there were a small number of coins, a small number of investors who made large investments on a Friday. Maybe they got a tip or something. They made they made tens, if not hundreds of millions. And then over the course of the next couple weeks, about 800,000 smaller investors lost billions.
Kara Swisher · 1:04:28
So that's Melania coin one?
Scott Galloway · 1:04:30
The Melania coin, two dozen traders made us... Almost a $100,000,000 the weekend it came out. Right? So one person invested 64 seconds before the project was publicly announced within twenty four hours had made 40,000,000. But since then, Melania has lost 96% of its value.
Kara Swisher · 1:04:48
Sure has.
Scott Galloway · 1:04:48
And this market manipulation, this... What would technically be called insider trading by the SEC, we'll never know because on April 8, Trump's deputy attorney general ordered the DOJ's crypto fraud investigation arm to disband. The next day, the the next day on April 9, the same day that treasury secretary Scott Bissent affirmed that it was Main Street's turn to get wealthy, Trump posted on Truth Social, this is a great time to buy Donald Trump media at 09:37AM. Between one and 01:10PM, there was a huge increase in bullish zero day S and P 500 call options. And then just eight minutes later, Trump announced a ninety day pause on all of his tariffs, and the market soared almost 10%, one of the biggest one day gains in history. So someone knew what was going on. Of course
Kara Swisher · 1:05:39
they do. He calls them. Like, it
Scott Galloway · 1:05:40
feels inside... Like that's called insider trading. The market gained $4,000,000,000,000 while Trump media closed up 23%. Trump's 53% ownership stake in the company increased his net worth by $41,515,000,000. On April 23, Trump announced that the top holders of the Trump coin would win an exclusive dinner with him in the coin surge over 60%. A small group of investors have generated massive returns. Just 58 wallets made more than 10,000,000 apiece, totaling approximately 1,100,000,000 in gains. Meanwhile, 800,000 wallets of mostly smaller holders have lost money on their Trump coin. And this isn't just a vessel for corruption. It's an open invitation for foreign manipulations. Three quarters of the token value held among the top 220 wallets are believed to be held by foreign owners. So if he's hosting a dinner for for his Trump pack and it costs $1,000,000.5, and say you're hungry and you wanna get rid of these tariffs, don't you pay someone... Have someone a proxy go, spend the million and $0.5 and go, oh, just FYI, let the president know, as a gift to him, we're gonna buy $50,000,000 in Trump coin this week, which will increase the value somewhere between 500,000,000 and 1,000,000,000, which means he'll get somewhere between 4 and 800,000,000, and we're really hoping he's kind to us around the tariffs.
Kara Swisher · 1:07:05
I I agree. I've been talking to a lot of investigative reporters right now. And by the way, a lot of techies are keeping tabs of this stuff, I have to say. In a couple of years, there's gonna be a mass investigation. He'll probably be not too old to put him in jail for it, but, boy, is this a grift. You're absolutely right.
Scott Galloway · 1:07:22
And it gets worse. Now the the kids went on it. World Liberty Financial, a crypto firm run by Trump's sons, Eric and Don Junior. 60% of it is owned by Trump affiliated entity, and they are entitled to 75% of its revenue. It's raised more than a $500,000,000 from investors who purchased the World Liberty Financial Governance Token, and now it's being leveraged to facilitate pardons for criminals. Justin Sun, a crypto billionaire, was under SEC investigation for securities fraud under the Biden administration. After investing 75,000,000 in World Liberty Financial, guess what, Kara? The SEC dismissed his case.
Kara Swisher · 1:08:01
That's correct. This is a this is a crash. It is really... This is the story. I keep telling reporters, and you've talked about it quite a lot. This is the story, the the the absolute kleptocracy, and it's in plain sight. Absolutely.
Speaker · 1:08:12
But this is what this
Scott Galloway · 1:08:13
is what fucking infuriates... I'm a rail politic guy. I don't mind a little bit of corruption as long as it's good for all Americans. I don't mind a little bit of strong arming. But here's the problem or the tragedy. If Trump bought if Trump brought half the competence, expertise, and elegance to governance as he does to grifting, the country would be in a much better place.
Kara Swisher · 1:08:37
He's good at he's good at criming.
Scott Galloway · 1:08:39
This is what we have. This will be my last statement here.
Kara Swisher · 1:08:41
Okay.
Scott Galloway · 1:08:42
We have a mob family running the country. That's the bad news. The worst thing the worst thing is that Michael Corleone is managing the crime, and Fredo is managing the government. It's like, for god's sakes.
Kara Swisher · 1:08:57
That's a good analogy.
Scott Galloway · 1:08:57
You are are so good at stealing. Can you bring some of that elegance, that timing, that expertise to the government, to actual government?
Kara Swisher · 1:09:07
Are usually stealing.
Scott Galloway · 1:09:08
Is in charge of our fucking military right now, and Michael Corleone is in charge of the Trump coin. So I forgive everything if you take the people managing your grift and put them in charge of our military and
Kara Swisher · 1:09:20
social security. Trump. But
Scott Galloway · 1:09:21
you get my point.
Kara Swisher · 1:09:22
This is just... Yeah. I get it, but they're not even smart. I don't even think they're smart. I think they're stupid, and they're just putting their bag out and saying, put money in here. Mobsters are are notoriously stupid. They just... They're just muscle, and that's what's happening here.
Scott Galloway · 1:09:34
Anyways, the prediction is the biggest grift in history is happening as we sit here right now. In five years, ten years, when this all comes out and it will, this will be the greatest grift in an economy over a shorter period
Kara Swisher · 1:09:47
of time that has ever taken place. Actually.
Scott Galloway · 1:09:50
This will make Putin blush.
Kara Swisher · 1:09:51
Yep. Absolutely. Okay, Scott. You've made your prediction. Now it's time to hear one last one from a listener. This one is super serious, so please try to focus. Okay? Let's play it.
Scott Galloway · 1:10:00
Okay.
Speaker · 1:10:01
Hi. This is Mike from Oakland, California. And I think my prediction is if Scott isn't already shaving his balls, he's gonna start doing that because I think there's nothing more depressing than gray ball hair, and that's really my prediction.
Kara Swisher · 1:10:21
Okay.
Scott Galloway · 1:10:25
I am speechless. Excellent. I occasionally clip my whole body so I can feel like a jungle cat, and then I put lotion all over my body, and I just love me. Yeah. I'm not a big I'm not a big manscaper. I like Big Ed and the twins. They have a little bit of a beard.
Kara Swisher · 1:10:42
Yeah. I gotta say, it's a big business. It's a big business.
Scott Galloway · 1:10:45
No. It all
Kara Swisher · 1:10:45
They have good names. They all have such good names, all those manscaping things. They have really funny brand names. Anyway, I I am not gonna say how I know this, but I
Scott Galloway · 1:10:54
do. My junk looks like like an aging anteater. It just looks sad. Okay. It just looks sad.
Kara Swisher · 1:11:01
Well, I don't know what to say. That would... Scott is speechless, which is excellent. Thank you, Mike.
Scott Galloway · 1:11:06
No. I'm not. I'm not.
Kara Swisher · 1:11:08
I think clipping is good. Keep it clean for the ladies, Scott. Keep it clean for the ladies. This is what I tell my sons.
Scott Galloway · 1:11:14
Keep clean
Kara Swisher · 1:11:15
for the ladies.
Scott Galloway · 1:11:16
My wife came in or actually, like, came in on me while I was manscaping once, and she asked me what I was doing. I... Apparently, meal prep was not the right answer.
Kara Swisher · 1:11:27
Okay. Yeah.
Speaker · 1:11:28
Keep it clean for
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Kara Swisher · 1:11:28
the ladies. That's my advice to all men. Ladies and men, let me be clear. We wanna hear from you. Send us your question about business tech or whatever's on your mind. Go to n y mag dot com slash pivot to submit a question for this show, or call 85551 Elsewhere in the Kara and Scott universe this week, this week on professor g conversation, Scott spoke with Anne Applebaum, one of my favorites, Pulitzer Prize winning historian.
Scott Galloway · 1:11:49
So good.
Kara Swisher · 1:11:50
And she's so good.
Scott Galloway · 1:11:51
And staff
Kara Swisher · 1:11:51
grader at the Atlantic. Let's listen to a clip.
Guest · 1:11:55
Donald Trump is somebody who's constantly sheep... Seeking to shape reality to his own benefit, and he feels no need to to be accurate. And so anybody who does, anyone who cares about telling the truth or or who cares about making policy based on reality and not on this fiction that that Trump promotes is uncomfortable. And that means that all the people around him are either they're simply manipulable, and they're willing to just do whatever he says, or they're people who have made a big, a kind of moral sacrifice, you know, who who are doing something they know to be wrong.
Kara Swisher · 1:12:31
Hello, Marco Rubio. Anne is terrific, and that's... I can see why you're in the grift mode right now because she talks about this a lot. She's an expert on this.
Scott Galloway · 1:12:38
I love her. I love her. I love when I love when... Unfortunately, I'm like, it's it's terrible she's having a moment. It's like if someone writes about famine, I hope they don't have a moment, but she is having a moment.
Kara Swisher · 1:12:48
She is. She's great and well worth reading. Okay. That's the show. Thanks for listening to Pivot. Be sure to like and subscribe to our YouTube channel. We'll be back next week. Scott, read us out.
Scott Galloway · 1:12:59
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