Scott Galloway · 43:58
Which I think they'll miss, is a really thoughtful administration would have already had several 100 diplomats, economists, technologists on... From China and The US hold up somewhere in Alaska or in South Korea outlining a memo of understanding around cooperation around AI.
Kara Swisher · 44:16
But what about this space force? He loves to have a space force or an AI force and a czar and this and that. This is a... This requires an enormous, as you said, coordination both domestically and internationally. And instead, he wants to have some guy in charge. Like, this is my AI Yeah.
Scott Galloway · 44:34
That's loyal to me.
Kara Swisher · 44:35
Loyal And that's to me. And
Scott Galloway · 44:36
he's like jacket
Kara Swisher · 44:36
and good for interested like David Sachs has been. And then he himself is buying and selling stocks in this area. I mean, the fact... You know, the the the the, crypto bill collapsed, the Clarity Act, just abs... There was a great story in, I think, The New York Times or The Wall Street Journal about the collapse of it largely because, one, Brian Armstrong who was leading it at CoinPost is a is a horse's ass. That's one. And two, they couldn't... You know, the grift of Trump was so massive that that it gave Democrats an end to, like, torpedo it. And and rightfully so because they wouldn't do the correct, you know, stopping, you know, this this grifter family from taking things, and they're doing the exact same thing over in, in AI investments.
Scott Galloway · 45:21
Yeah. So there's two things here. There's space, and there's there's corruption. I think one of the biggest opportunities... So amongst the many existential threats facing Americans right now, I I hearken back to the days when the elevators were gonna stop in y two k or Greek sovereign debt was supposedly gonna affect all of Europe and take the global economy down. I I long for the days of of just people dying from COVID. It just Oh, god. This is Scott. Yeah. But, I mean, think about this. Every day, it's a mass extinction event.
Kara Swisher · 45:53
Mass extinction.
Scott Galloway · 45:54
Well, but one of those existential crises is, in fact, our debt. And I'm writing a lot about this right now. A third rail... Everyone talks about the third rail of of entitlements. We need to have a serious conversation around our military spending. And there's a big opportunity to take the one word that defines the Ukrainian and the war in Iran, and that is asymmetry, and figure out a way to partner with companies like Onderal and say, okay. Northrop Grumman and Boeing, there's just been so much creep. When you have a weapons program for a plane, which is a great plane that's gonna cost $1,500,000,000,000, and the Pentagon hasn't passed an audit, let's think big. How could we take... How could we turn our military into the most lethal fighting force ever that costs 500,000,000,000 a year instead of 1,500,000,000,000? Because the problem is we associate that number with macho. And every Democrat is afraid to say, let's take it down to 1.49 because that means I don't have testicles.
Kara Swisher · 47:02
Right. But, you know, it's it's it's headset that's trying to integrate AI into it. It's just that he's a moron, and it's not the person you wanna be doing something. So Well,
Scott Galloway · 47:10
that's a confidence issue. Right. Yeah. Is something about asymmetric warfare that leverages our unique advantage about our ability to haul stuff into space, our ability around connectivity, the fact that we have the best universities in the world looking at this stuff. And also also, it might make sense to partner with the EU, Canada
Kara Swisher · 47:30
Oh, that would be nice.
Scott Galloway · 47:31
And possibly possibly Ukraine. China.
Kara Swisher · 47:36
Also also Ukraine. Do you see what they're doing? Blowing up all manner of things in Russia, which Trump is trying to get them stop? On Unbelievable.
Scott Galloway · 47:43
An $80,000,000,000 millet.
Kara Swisher · 47:45
So Unbelievable.
Scott Galloway · 47:46
Successful fighting force in the world is doing it on a budget of 80,000,000,000, and we're losing a war in Iran on one and a half trillion? Yeah. How do we have five times the fighting force and lethality of the Ukrainian army for 400,000,000,000 or 500,000,000,000 instead of 1,500,000,000,000, where we have we have literally $1,000,000,000 bombers.
— Predictions segment begins —
Kara Swisher · 48:03
May I make a historical point? Most of the people that fought the Roman Empire had equal amounts of... There was not a lot of innovation and weaponry, equal amounts of weapons, same weapons. They did it through organization, discipline, and and strategy, really. Right? And and in this case, you... It's not it's not necessarily weapons. It's that how do you how do you deploy it, and we should be able to do this. It is kind of shocking, how how much Ukraine is doing with very little money. And, of course, Trump is trying to stop them for... Because he's Putin's bitch. Anyway, this is the last thing. Anthropic is reportedly pushing its IPO from October to November. Investors are talking about a potential $2,000,000,000,000 valuation. Anthropic is expected to reach more than a $100,000,000,000... Billion dollars in annualized revenue by the end of the year, up from 65,000,000,000 as of July. The company could publicly release financial documents about the offering as soon as a couple weeks from now. I'm sure you'll be pouring over them. Those those sources tell the Wall Street Journal the decision to aim for November was made before the former Anthropic researcher warned that AI companies are moving too fast. Give us some predictions. Will Anthropic's IPO really happen this year? It would be bigger than SpaceX? It would be if that's the case. And, also, there is... People feel like the latest version of ChatGPT is getting some real traction. I forget what it's called. They all have new fucking names. It drives me crazy. Do you feel... What do you... How do you look at this? This is a shift, and it was, again, before this hair on fire stuff around, this researcher. Let me just make one note. It's... I'm working on a book right now that... And I went back and found some old speeches of Sam Altman. 2015, he said virtually the same thing this researcher said. So it's... This is not new, a lot of these worries. He wrote an essay, the first sentence of which is essentially AI will kill all of humanity or could kill all of humanity. Anyway, what do you think about the Anthropic IPO? But let's buy some stocks, Scott. What do you think about it?
Scott Galloway · 49:58
Well, so a $2,000,000,000,000 valuation is what they're saying and a $100,000,000,000 run rate by the year... End of the year. It's not a company going public. It's a country's GDP going public. And that's why Trump has been so compromised. He wants a piece of it, and he sees it as more important. So he's like, distinctive extinction risk, existential risk, go, baby, go. I doubt it gets done by the end of the year because of all of the different. Well, I think they have to. I... To a certain extent, I don't wanna say I feel sorry for these guys, but they have their series a, b, c, d, e, and f investors. There there are probably no less than 50 VCs who manage to get into the b or c round of anthropic who are sitting on a septic tank of shit that just didn't work. And the difference between them raising fund three and being a hero and being the guy who started a VC fund and it didn't work is whether this thing gets public at the valuation. So he's got... In addition, he probably has thousands of people who've put a down payment on a ridiculously overpriced house in San Francisco who borrowed from their in laws saying, oh, it's gonna go public in three months, and I'm gonna have $11,000,000. There are a lot of incentives for this guy to get public. At the same time, not having not having put in place guardrails, not having put in place or the understanding the regulatory framework. I mean, there's a lot of things that just say maybe a pause to slow down that gives them a chance to maybe kind of check back on the CapEx and report a quarter of increase or gives people greater visibility into where they... They released one of these ridiculous WeWork like EBITDA statements saying, well, if you don't look... If you take out inference and compute, we're profitable. It's like what... When WeWork tried
Kara Swisher · 51:49
to calculate EBITDA flour, the bread is really Take
Scott Galloway · 51:52
out the take out... It's kind of like profits before any cost.
Kara Swisher · 51:57
Yeah. I mean,
Scott Galloway · 51:57
it's just so stupid. Right? So it feels to me like he's got a lot on his plate to get a public offering done.
Kara Swisher · 52:06
So you think a push a push?
Scott Galloway · 52:08
I gotta think that if it happens, it's gonna be q one. This... We're running out of time.
Kara Swisher · 52:14
Do they do January IPOs?
Scott Galloway · 52:16
I don't see why not.
Kara Swisher · 52:18
Well, I know, but I don't recall a lot. Like, is it March? Or
Scott Galloway · 52:22
The the honest answer, Kara, is I don't know.
Kara Swisher · 52:25
That's a lot of pent up. That could really be bad if... Especially if the stock market blows, which... You know? A lot of the stock people feel like they're calling for these slowdowns in order to catch up. Right? Like, that it's all faint versus
Scott Galloway · 52:38
I think they've gotta... I just... Going public in the midst of insecurity about a mass extinction event
Kara Swisher · 52:46
Yeah. I agree. It's
Scott Galloway · 52:47
I kind mean, let me put it this way. You know what I'm really excited? I'm really excited to read a section in the s one called risks.
Kara Swisher · 52:55
Risks.
Scott Galloway · 52:55
I mean, how are they gonna how are they gonna outline this risk?
Kara Swisher · 53:00
Well, the thing is both Altman and Amodi have so much... I... I've just been digging into stuff from ten years ago. Because I'd said on the stage in Atlantic this week, because of the Atlantic Conference, which was an excellent conference, by the way, that, like, I was at dinner parties where they were all saying these things, like, very clearly. Like, everyone... I was like, I don't know why this this young researcher suddenly got to everyone, but these guys were saying it. And then I went and found a lot of their early writings, and it it literally says, probably, it'll kill us. This is how much it'll kill us. The thing we'll probably die from is this. Like, they have so much history of this that it's really... You know, I just wanna make sure I was... I mean, I remember these dinner parties. But at the time, it was speculative. Right? And now they, I guess, are seeing some proof, whether it's Google jumping out of the sandbox or them jumping out of the sandbox. They haven't yet gotten to a missile silo, but it's only five minutes till that. So it'll be interesting. So so you think it's gonna push till next... Will it be that big? Will be there... Will there be a lot of demand for this?
Scott Galloway · 54:04
Oh, god. Yes. I mean, I keep hearing the numbers are doubling every month.
Kara Swisher · 54:08
And Yeah.
Scott Galloway · 54:08
I'm going back to this big
Kara Swisher · 54:10
You'll buy it.
Scott Galloway · 54:11
If I could get on the IPO, I would buy it and then flip it on the first trade. Yeah.
Kara Swisher · 54:16
It. See? Buy it, flip it is what
Scott Galloway · 54:17
you do. Doubt. I mean, this is gonna be... This will be the most anticipated IPO in history more so. But just going back to the metaphor or the analogy used around cooperation, an IPO requires the cooperation of of hundreds, if not thousands of entities in in people. And trying to trying to be trying trying to be the first IPO while claiming the moral high ground
Kara Swisher · 54:43
I know. While saying you might kill everybody. Yeah. It's complicated.
Scott Galloway · 54:47
Yeah. They... Anthropic doesn't need... Doesn't wanna be first. It just needs... It just... It's just that going first also happens to serve the safety narrative and the balance sheet at the same time. Nature doesn't
Kara Swisher · 54:57
Yeah.
Scott Galloway · 54:58
Nature nature doesn't ask the coral and the fish if they love each other, but there's going to have to be some sort of cooperation and detente and reasonable sense of safety as arbitrated, I would think, by a regulator.
— Predictions segment ends —
Kara Swisher · 55:14
By regular... They they should have... They shouldn't have the stupid AI force. There should be significant regulation. They should back it. You know, they're always worried about it in a way they they... This would help them. You're absolutely right. By the way, I had heard from someone that they didn't think that OpenAI would go up at all, which was interesting. That's another topic. Alright, Scott. Let's go on a quick break. We come back with Chinese president Xi coming to The US. American automakers have a warning for Donald Trump. Support for the show comes from Ateo. There are sales teams out there who never seem to stop moving, always a step ahead, always on the number, working with a level of precision that doesn't seem normal. It's no secret. They're on Ateo, the agentic CRM. Ateo runs the work behind every win. It's built for humans and agents with the guardrails of human software and the scale of Adjantic infrastructure. 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One more wrinkle, Xi is expected to bring a group of Chinese business leaders with him to The US and might include the founder of Chinese EV giant BYD. Of course, would. Thoughts about this? What do you think is gonna happen here? I don't think there's gonna be a discussion of, say, AI safety is my guess, or it's not gonna be a significant one.
Scott Galloway · 59:57
Yeah. I think he'll be more focused on claiming stupid shit like I've got more tariffs, and we're gonna give people $5,000 back. Like, Detroit wants to summon its diplomatic cooperation. Right? They want some sort of disabled troop or they want protection. And asking Xi to show up as a bonobo and negotiate as a chimp, so to speak. I don't... Look. I hate to say this. I've... When I was in a BYD in in Brazil
Kara Swisher · 1:00:25
Mhmm. They're everywhere.
Scott Galloway · 1:00:27
And I got in, and I thought, oh, this is a Model Y or whatever. He says, no. It's a BYD. I said, how much is it? And he said... He figured out. It was, like, 14 or $16,000. I'm like, we're fucked.
Kara Swisher · 1:00:35
Mhmm.
Scott Galloway · 1:00:36
And just
Kara Swisher · 1:00:36
as thought the same thing when I saw them.
Scott Galloway · 1:00:38
When my my first big consulting, this is the best engagement in the world. When when I was right out of business school, I met a guy named Warren Hellman, and he said, I've got a great assignment for you. I want you to come to every Levi Strauss and Company board meeting. I don't want you to sit next to anybody. I don't want you to talk to anybody. I want you to listen for days. And then I want you to stand up and tell us exactly what you think. I was 27.
Kara Swisher · 1:00:58
Wow.
Scott Galloway · 1:00:59
This was the was the best consulting engagement in history.
Kara Swisher · 1:01:03
That's why you're the way that you are. Good.
Scott Galloway · 1:01:05
The way that I am. Anyways, I remember this. We're in Singapore, and they were having this big debate about continuing to manufacture Levi's in the South. And I said, okay. All this is is a transfer of wealth from your shareholders to the good people in those factories. But I said, I know how the story ends. In ten years, you're not gonna be manufacturing denim in The United States because you will eventually opt for shareholder value and reinvest in places with higher paid jobs and grow your company. I, for the first time, I'm beginning to believe that American cars are Levi's. I don't know if we're gonna be manufacturing them in twenty years. Because when I look at cars coming out of China, and the... They have cars now that can go 600 miles without a charge or zero to 60 in two and a half seconds.
Kara Swisher · 1:01:55
All manner of on them that are fun. Like, all manner of fun features.
Scott Galloway · 1:01:59
Cost $40,000.
Kara Swisher · 1:02:00
Some that are that are 6 and 7,000. Remember, I bought my... I don't know what your first car cost, but I had a Honda Civic for $6,000, 7... Something like that.
Scott Galloway · 1:02:09
Oh, god. I've had so many bad cars. I had a Volkswagen Rabbit, then I had a Renault Lakkar, then had a Chevy Chevelle Grand.
Kara Swisher · 1:02:15
I had a Rabbit.
Scott Galloway · 1:02:17
Convertible, then I had a BMW three eighteen I.
Kara Swisher · 1:02:20
Oh, you moved up? I went down. You went up,
Scott Galloway · 1:02:22
and I
Kara Swisher · 1:02:23
went down.
Scott Galloway · 1:02:23
I kept going up and up.
Kara Swisher · 1:02:24
Chevy Bolt.
Scott Galloway · 1:02:25
Anyways Geez. My last car was a Range Rover. $120. It's a cooler brand than what they're producing in China, but China is effectively making a better SUV for $40. And I just don't think we can compete.
Kara Swisher · 1:02:41
Yeah. So what should go happen at this summit? Like, there's not gonna be any AI stuff. I doubt it. I don't think it's within his ability unless he's gonna get a gimme.
Scott Galloway · 1:02:49
I don't know. I can just hope that the political move they could restore... If if they were truly focused on what would be best for them, America, and quite frankly, the midterms, would be to announce... Have somebody on the... In the administration who's smart say, we have been negotiating behind the scenes for several months on AI, and we've come to an understanding on the following important things around weapons, around privacy, around... Here... Here's what AI is at the end of the day. Good AI. A small rural hospital in Alabama can incorporate the same AI best practices or best practices using AI to reduce sepsis as they're doing at the University of California San Francisco, which is the best hospital in the world. It levels up. It can help it can help people treat
Kara Swisher · 1:03:35
Level up. Level up.
Scott Galloway · 1:03:36
It's a leveler up. Like, whether you're in Lagos Lagos or in Lausanne, Switzerland, this is an opportunity to bring middle powers up. That's a good AI. The bad fucking AI is that right now only nine nations could produce a nuclear bomb. We might be at a 149 nations in six months. That's the bad AI. It's a leveler for for good intentions. There are cybercriminal... Cyber cybercrime organizations of two, 300 people. There's a feeling with AI, you can start the same cybercrime organization with one person now.
Kara Swisher · 1:04:10
Right.
Scott Galloway · 1:04:10
Yep. Unless we get together and cooperate specifically with China, you're gonna see a leveling up in very bad ways. And these guys... I mean, this is basically the equivalent of a cybercrime organization, which supposedly is costing the global economy trillions of dollars. Is about to go from two or 300 people in Russia or Ukraine to one person with a Claude Pro subscription. So these guys getting together and saying, we are starting the most effective transparent multilateral enforcement and regulator agency. We don't want our kids killing themselves.
Kara Swisher · 1:04:46
And the chances of this, Scott.
Scott Galloway · 1:04:48
I I... This is the opportunity for a Democrat. We're gonna go the other way. We're gonna create a free trading zone, a non tariff zone, cooperation around military and AI, the likes of which you have never seen, and we're gonna unlock so much fucking economic growth and reduce the existential risk here because democracies and China, which deserves a seat at the table because whether you like it or not, they're number two, and they have brought 500 meet... Million people out of poverty. We are going to, on a different level, cooperate with them, but we're gonna create an indomitable entity of democracies and capitalist societies around around economics that will result in massive deflation, prosperity, shared best practices, force people to respect their borders. China's not invading anybody.
Kara Swisher · 1:05:35
I love all this. But you know what? It's really important to keep Collins out of the White House. That should be our focus. Okay? Because she never smiles. Alright, Scott. One more quick break. We'll be back for wins and fails.
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Kara Swisher · 1:07:36
Okay. Scott, wins and fails. I'm gonna go first. I have a lot fails. I'm gonna do them all at once. I have one win. I know people have issues with the New York Times, all minor issues, but what an amazing media organization. Congratulations on your birthday. And thank you for letting me hear Janelle Monae up close. That was really cool. And, and it was it was a really fun party. So congratulations. That's my win. The fails are so many. I don't know where to count. First, why did Amazon cancel ride or die, with Hannah Waddingham and Octavia Spencer? It was their number one show. Someone buy it. Apple, I don't care. It's such a good show, and it was, like, ladies with guns are my favorite thing. That was a fail. Another fail was, obviously, all the quizlings that went along with Trump on the First Amendment stuff. If you... You know, you better like the First Amendment because it's coming for you if you don't protect it. That's the number one amendment, and you should protect it above all things of of the many rights we have. It's the... One of the... That first amendment with lots of stuff in there is the most important of all of them. And the last one is this insane fucking... I live in Washington. I'm getting a little sick of this president Trump. You're making a mess of everything, but your plan 250 foot triumphal arch that is gonna be on my way to the airport, which I already have to see your big ass golden, horses, which is irritating enough, will now double as a military complex. Because nothing says democracy like housing drone snipers and large amounts of ammunition in your monuments. I just don't know what to say. This is insane if we let him build this. I hope we stop him. Same thing with the Kennedy Center. There was a lot of people. Just the whole manner of things is just a massive fail here. And so I just... I don't know what to say about it, but I hope there's enough legal moves to stop him from doing all of this manner of things because it really is, again, working my last nerve.
Scott Galloway · 1:09:27
I have two wins and a fail. My first win is New York. I spent the entire weekend here and did my favorite thing. Roamed around Jack's wife, Frida, bought T shirts at James Purse, sunglasses at Warby Parker, shoes at on. Went to Blank Street Coffee and mocked all the all the Gen Zers or whoever they're called waiting in line two hours for for for yogurt at this weird place called Mimi's. New York or nowhere has a line of an hour. I'm telling you, Kara, you don't recognize you're in a golden age when you're in it? This is a golden age in New York.
Kara Swisher · 1:10:01
Really? Packed. I was there too. Packed. Crazy packed. Packed. Everywhere.
Scott Galloway · 1:10:06
Last year last year, 65,000,000 people visited New York, 80,000,000,000 in economic activity. It supports 400,000 jobs. It used to be 54% of New York's economy. Now it's 60%. We've created one one million jobs since COVID. There's always an asterisk. Most of those jobs are health care, so most of the jobs are looking after old people. But wow. Has this... I went to Sartianos. I went to, as usual, Zero Bond and J. Margo. Everything is packed. Everyone is friendly. No one's at home planning the extinction of the human species. People are not at home gambling on whether the Fed raises interest rates.
Kara Swisher · 1:10:43
Neighborhoods that are usually quieter down near the the memorial. I was down there. Tons of people.
Scott Galloway · 1:10:49
Not just because Festival San Geronimo or whatever the fuck it is. I I went there, and I bought baked oysters. I mean, it just... Or fried oysters.
Kara Swisher · 1:10:57
Oh, the Italian. Mhmm.
Scott Galloway · 1:10:59
The city... The Disneyland of democracy and capitalism right now is New York, and it is wonderful.
Kara Swisher · 1:11:06
He's... Trump is visiting his his best
Scott Galloway · 1:11:09
fucking lutely to do with nothing with Mondani.
Kara Swisher · 1:11:10
No. I know it doesn't, but I'm just saying he gets the credit. He'll get the credit.
Scott Galloway · 1:11:13
Well, okay. Fine. He he'll get the
Kara Swisher · 1:11:16
a good job.
Scott Galloway · 1:11:16
But if you were gonna if you were gonna credit anybody, it would be Eric Adams. And after mom Donnelly's out of off... Anyway, there's a lag period in government. That's my whole point.
Kara Swisher · 1:11:23
Fine. He's
Scott Galloway · 1:11:24
still gonna
Kara Swisher · 1:11:24
get credit. He feels
Scott Galloway · 1:11:26
so high heels. I agree he will get the credit. New... My point is New York is just
Kara Swisher · 1:11:31
Killing it.
Scott Galloway · 1:11:32
On fire right now. And and the bad news is our inflation is 4.6 versus 3.4. It's sort of a metaphor for America, and that is if you're the right place at the right time, you are just killing it. If you're the kind of person that shows up for jury duty, your rent's going up too much and you're incurring inflation. But, anyways, always has to be an asterisk. My second win, I stumbled on what I think is the coolest nonprofit in the world, and I DM'd them, and I haven't heard back. And there's some virtue signaling here, but I'm gonna do it anyways. I have finally found the nonprofit that I was born to support. It's called Giving Words, and it's a Virginia nonprofit organization that fixes up donated used cars and then gives them away to single mothers. And one of the biggest barriers to economic independence for single mothers is they can't afford to get to job interviews. It takes them... They have to take public transportation. In rural rural areas, there is no public transportation. It is a huge barrier to economic independence.
Kara Swisher · 1:12:28
This isn't one eight hundred cars for kids. Right? That song? It's not this... That one.
Scott Galloway · 1:12:32
No. This is not that. This is not that. This is is Edie Brown... These... This husband and wife, Edie Brown and Ginny, established the charity in 2018 after identifying reliable transportation as a as a critical obstacle for single mothers trying to access employment, education, and health care. This is... You're gonna love this. They partner with the local high schools, and the organization partners with the automotive technology program at at Louisa County High School in Mineral, Virginia, where students gains hands on vocational experience repairing the donated vehicles. And they've refurbished and donated more than 60 free vehicles to families in need. So Eddie and Jenny, reach out to me. I'd like to be supportive. But this is about single moms. It's about economic opportunity. It's about teaching young men vocational skills. I just... I read this, and I thought, oh my god.
Kara Swisher · 1:13:28
It's designed for Scott, single
Scott Galloway · 1:13:29
mom. Why? I'm like, I wish I thought of this. I wish I thought
Kara Swisher · 1:13:33
of this.
Scott Galloway · 1:13:34
Anyways, my second win, and I'm serious, Eddie. Jim fail. Reach out to me. Yeah. If you Google me, you get way too much information and can reach out to me. But my loss or my fail is there's all this scuttlebutt and reporting about democratic elders trying to talk vice president Harris out of running for president. Vice president Harris, outstanding senator. I think she'd been outstanding justice. I thought she was a lousy presidential candidate. She didn't make it even to Iowa in 2020. I thought she was given a raw deal in 2024, and I will give her this. I thought she had one of the most outstanding political performances of the last fifty years in her debate with Donald Trump. I can't imagine the pressure on her. I do not think she's a good candidate. The poll sure is number one right now. I think that's mostly name recognition. The majority of people who take those polls just say, oh, I've heard of her, and I've heard of that handsome guy in California. I don't think she will make it very far this time, but let her cook.
Kara Swisher · 1:14:33
That's correct. Thank you, Scott. I thought you'd say, yeah. That's a good idea. I hate when elders visit people. I hate it.
Scott Galloway · 1:14:39
When the Democratic or the Republican machine pick a candidate or try to get Bernie out or say, McCain, you're the right person, It never works. Let me give you who the people polling number one were in the Republican presidential elections at this moment. At this moment, polling number one was Rudy Giuliani. At this moment, polling number one was Herman Cain. At this moment, polling number one was... Oh, this is my favorite. Fred Thompson from Law and Order. He was actually polling number one.
Kara Swisher · 1:15:07
Good on Law and Order.
Scott Galloway · 1:15:08
The Democrat... The full body contact violence of the primary process not only surfaces the right person, but for the right person for the moment. Nobody thought Nixon had any business running for president again, again, and again, and he won. So while I personally don't think vice president Harris would make a good president, let her cook. If she
Kara Swisher · 1:15:28
wants a good president, she might... She doesn't make a good candidate. Right?
Scott Galloway · 1:15:32
Who knows? I guess what?
Kara Swisher · 1:15:34
Are you kidding? It's such a full fucking bar at this point. But
Scott Galloway · 1:15:36
go on. The primary process is like Navy SEALs training. It produces a fucking warrior when you let it run.
Kara Swisher · 1:15:45
Grieve, Scott Galloway. I love that. I thought you'd say go with the elders.
Scott Galloway · 1:15:49
And the Democratic party Democratic party elders don't have a great track record.
Kara Swisher · 1:15:56
Do you know who was at that party? Chuck Schumer.
Scott Galloway · 1:15:58
He actually looked good. He looks good for 131.
Kara Swisher · 1:16:01
He looks great. He looked good. I I would agree with you. He's he's got his weed. He's gone.
Scott Galloway · 1:16:05
And the only the only thing the democratic elders should be doing right now is saying, how can I help? Have at it.
Kara Swisher · 1:16:12
Also, they should be saying, I'm gonna select a retirement community now and move along. Anyway, we wanna hear from you. Send us your questions about business tech or whatever's on your mind. Go to nymag.com/pivot to submit a question for the show, or call 85551 Okay. That is the show. What a good show this has been. Thanks for listening to Pivot, and be sure to like and subscribe to our YouTube channel. We'll be back on Friday. Hey, Stephanie Rowe and Rachel Maddow. See you soon.
Scott Galloway · 1:16:40
I don't what that means. Today's show was produced by Lara Nayman, Zoe Marcus Taylor Griffin, and Todd Wiseman. Kate Gallagher and Brad Sylvester fact checked this episode. We'll see. And Ernie and her Todd engineered it. Thanks also to Dubrowz, miss Savario, and Dan Shalon. Nishat Karowat, Vox Media's executive producer podcast. Make sure to follow Pivot on your favorite podcast platform. Thank you for listening to Pivot from Vox Media. We'll be back later this week for another breakdown of all things tech and business. Governors, representatives, senators, former presidential candidates, business people, let them cook. Have at it. Will we get to decide?
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