Kara Swisher · 41:57
But definitely, you're not... You're gonna have slight... You can't agonize when other people have real problems. Like, you will have a job. It's just a question of... There might be depressed wages for certain Yeah.
Scott Galloway · 42:09
Okay. A graduate... An undergraduate's gonna make 84 ks instead of 90 ks right at 22. I was on the board of the business school and you know what our biggest problem was in terms of recruiting? Recruiters stopped recruiting at Haas because the kids were getting too many offers and wouldn't accept their offers. They're like, we come here, we spend two days, we spend a lot of time and energy, and then no one takes our offer because they're all getting... At some point, and this is happening at NYU, and this is great to be a business school grad or great to be a graduate of a great undergraduate school, the kids are getting five and seven offers. And we've had to tell them, stop interviewing when you get your seventh offer. You're not doing anyone in history.
Kara Swisher · 42:48
I was talking to a kid who was applying. Alice will be applying at colleges. You know, they think they limit the number they can apply now, but it's still, it's like, why are you applying to that many? Which one do you want to go to? Like, they overstate Overcome competition. Many offers Yeah, do you exactly. Well, I don't think he's like that, but I think it's more, I don't see that, I guess it's a strategy, but I find it appalling actually. Anyway, you'll be fine, Millie. You'll be perfectly fine.
Scott Galloway · 43:15
Good to be Millie.
Kara Swisher · 43:16
Good to be Millie. What good name, by the way. I love that name. All right, if you've got a question of your own you'd like answered, you know, we should, speaking of which, this is a really good thing on career advice. We should do a career show just like we did the dating show, which I think we got a lot of people married. We should do a parenting show.
Scott Galloway · 43:31
I would like that a lot.
Kara Swisher · 43:32
Let's do
Scott Galloway · 43:32
a parenting think you would want that's, people always say, tell me about Karen. Say the thing I admire most about you is your parenting.
Kara Swisher · 43:37
Yeah, let's do a parenting show. I think it'd be good. Just before this, I made my son a delightful lunch. In fact, I felt like good about that. It was delicious. I cooked last night. Cooked. Louis was like, are you sure I shouldn't cook? And I did it and he was pleased with my meal.
Scott Galloway · 43:51
So you're having... It's funny, similar for breakfast, I had my son mix me as a cop and Coke. Same, same, same, same.
Kara Swisher · 43:58
I cook for them. I gotta say, the New York Times cooking app is amazing. I've been using it a lot. I'm not a very good, I'm an okay cook, but now I'm getting to be a better one. Yeah. If you got a question of your own you'd like answered, send it our way. Go to nymag.com/pivot to submit a question for our show or call 85551 Alright, Scott. One more quick break. We'll be back for wins and fails.
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Kara Swisher · 45:57
Okay, Scott. Let's have some wins and fails. Before that, I wanna make a call out to Doug and Freya. I was having lunch in Los Angeles at Jugusta, one of my favorite places. And I have to say about four people came up to me and asked about you, and these were the most Yes. Again, it's really quite amazing. It was a couple. They... Like, just like Brene Brown and Rosman.
Scott Galloway · 46:18
Oh, you sent me a They sent
Kara Swisher · 46:19
you They were great. But here's to Doug and Freya. Thank you. I hope you enjoyed your lunch. I certainly did. And thank you for saying something. Really... As I say, come up to us and talk to us. We love it. I had another young guy and another one. It was really lots on the plane. It was really nice. It was really nice, and we love it. So wins. I have... I'm gonna have one, the NASA photos
Scott Galloway · 46:41
100%.
Kara Swisher · 46:42
From the Webb... James Webb Space Telescope. 100%. Feels like... I was watching Thor the other day getting ready to go to Thor Love and Thunder, and they have those beautiful visuals of them flying through space. Nothing so beautiful. So so amazing. It gives you pause. It makes you... This was from billions of years ago too, right? These pictures are from a galaxy that doesn't exist anymore. But wow, wish someday we can space explore exploration because I'd love to see this.
Scott Galloway · 47:11
Yeah, brought to you by those boneheads called Government.
Kara Swisher · 47:13
Government, yeah.
Scott Galloway · 47:14
Beautiful. It's incredible. I agree with you. By the way, speaking of Thor, I heard that Chris Hemsworth, out of respect for Natalie Portman's veganism, decided not to eat meat before they kiss, which means, and this is a serious question, if I eat pork, do I get to make out with Chris Hemsworth? It could happen.
Kara Swisher · 47:31
Interesting. Well, interesting, it was an exchange between Tessa Thompson and Natalie Portman at an interview, she didn't know, Tessa Thompson didn't know that. And then they all talked about how much meat he eats. Like he eats bison in the morning. He eats like a ton of meat. So even though you'd think it's a small thing, apparently this man likes to eat animal flesh quite a bit. That was very cute.
Scott Galloway · 47:51
Do you
Kara Swisher · 47:51
eat beef?
Scott Galloway · 47:52
I eat beef two or three times I a day. Is that
Kara Swisher · 47:54
do not. I eat it once every couple weeks, and I do eat chicken I eat a lot of fish. And I like pork. I do like pork quite a bit, but I don't don't either way eat that eat meat. I like it. I like the taste of it. I don't like beef as much anymore. I don't know why. I don't have a problem with it. Just don't like it as much.
Scott Galloway · 48:14
Anyway What's for dinner? Beef.
Kara Swisher · 48:16
I see that. Thank you. But I don't like the plant burgers either, so I don't know. But I do like salmon is my favorite thing, wild salmon. Anyway, that's my positive. Don't really have a...
Scott Galloway · 48:27
Vegans aren't animal lovers. They're plant haters, Kara.
Kara Swisher · 48:30
My fail is that that Sydney Powell and the whole gang of them. She just lost, I think, a lawyer in her... I hope she loses her dominion suit. That that craziness at the at the White House, those people able to get in, just like, it's nerve wracking that crazy people could get into the White House and avail themselves to an audience with the president and be...
Scott Galloway · 48:46
It's crazier that we can elect one.
Kara Swisher · 48:48
I know that. But, man, I I... You know, I think George Conway actually said it well. Someone said that Pence and these others should get a Medal of Honor for what they did. You don't get a Medal of Honor for not participating in a coup, but thank goodness they were there. That's why, you know, my god. My god. That would have failed on the behalf of the White House security and everyone else to let these lunatics headed by Rudy Giuliani, including Sidney Powell, Michael Flynn, and the guy from overstock.com, which my favorite reference in the testimony of
Scott Galloway · 49:18
Remember him?
Kara Swisher · 49:19
Pat Cipollone. He goes, was this Overstock guy. I'm like, who are you? Like, I didn't know this guy. Yes.
Scott Galloway · 49:25
Was crazy. I remember like, oh, he's our crazy ecommerce guy.
Kara Swisher · 49:28
Yes. Exactly. So crazy was in the office, and I love Pat Cipollone. Like, who the fuck are you? Get the fuck out of my way. And why are you here kind of stuff? And apparently, he ate a lot of Swedish meatballs. That was my favorite thing. Apparently, Trump serves Swedish meatballs. Anyway, that gang of idiots is really, you know, hucksters, idiots, and and grifters. Gunning it to the White House was a real fail. All right, your win and fail?
Scott Galloway · 49:51
I love your win, the NASA photos. My fail, and this is along the lines of what you're talking about, I don't think Biden gets the credit he deserves for assembling a team of people that are competent. And that is greatness is in the agency of others. The team with the best players wins. And Peter Navarro, who was on Newsmax, is no legitimate broadcast cable network, not even Fox will let him on anymore. And he went on to say that he believes Vice President Pence is guilty of treason because he certified the election. This is someone who was supposed to be handling our economy. It just gives you a sense for just how incompetent and weird the team that the former president assembled.
Kara Swisher · 50:31
Well, he had some good people and they left. Right? Like, I don't think you'd say that about the... About... I know.
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Scott Galloway · 50:36
It's like the Facebook board. Anyone with any integrity ultimately ends up leaving kinda too sweet. So I I don't think Biden gets gets the credit he deserves for assembling a government that is credible. And these are the smaller decisions that people don't hear about that impact veterans affairs, that impact local health departments, impact the housing and urban development? It's important that government be competent. Anyways, my fail is just the incredible incompetence that continues to be unraveled here from the Trump administration. My win is I can't help it. I've been very critical of the Twitter board of directors. I thought it was ridiculous that they entertained a part time CEO or someone who was really the full time CEO of another company. I think from start to finish on this Musk BS, despite all the pressure, his sycophants laundering his BS and saying, oh, it's gonna be hard for you and discovery will be bad for Twitter. Yeah. It's gonna be bad for someone. It's not gonna be bad for Twitter. They immediately assembled a special committee of the board. They didn't get let ego get involved. They knew that and this is legal analysis that that this guy is so erratic. So the agreement is reviewed by litigation attorneys is not... Is more seller friendly. In other words, tighter, more sealed than 93% of purchase agreements. They've handled this perfectly. They haven't gotten personal. They have been restrained, and they're gonna get their shareholders $54.20 a share. I think the legal document reads like, it's the most compelling complaint I have ever read. And to summarize, they say that his actions are a lesson in hypocrisy.
Kara Swisher · 52:15
Well, that makes Elon the unhappy owner of the company.
Scott Galloway · 52:19
Yeah. But even... Here's the thing. He's not
Kara Swisher · 52:22
They're not gonna make him buy the company. They're gonna make him pay.
Scott Galloway · 52:25
Right. But they've got a pretty big hammer here. Mhmm. Because they can say to him, okay, fine. Show up for $54.20. And even if he's forced to do that... And supposedly, by the way, one of the people he was considering to run Twitter was the father of his twins who was support... His subordinate. Yeah. But Discover's gonna be back for Twitter.
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Kara Swisher · 52:43
The mother. The mother.
Scott Galloway · 52:44
I'm sorry. The Although,
Kara Swisher · 52:45
not that there's anything wrong
Scott Galloway · 52:46
with that. See gender, Kara.
Kara Swisher · 52:48
I understand. I know you wanna have Elon's baby. I'm aware of this, but you can't.
Scott Galloway · 52:52
You know? I I You can't. I think it could happen. You know what I'd like? I'd like... I think he's A uterus? Yes. Very drawn to me, so I have a proposal for mister Musk. Let's meet in Delaware as I would enjoy seeing you get fucked. Oh. Let's meet and let's meet at 04:20 in the morning, bitch.
Kara Swisher · 53:10
I'm gonna have to block you now. Oh my goodness gracious. Let's leave that in. Let's... Don't take that out later. Don't.
Scott Galloway · 53:16
Always take out my good stuff. They
Kara Swisher · 53:18
always take out my stuff. Nobody takes that out, including yourself. Don't have another thought after we
Scott Galloway · 53:22
get out. That's really good. Would like to watch him get get pretty seriously plowed in Delaware. Okay. That would turn me on. I will touch myself watching those pants report here.
Kara Swisher · 53:32
Yay, Ben. That's the show.
Scott Galloway · 53:34
Okay. Let me go to this one. I'm sorry. Let me let me take it down to a dad joke.
Kara Swisher · 53:38
Scott, I backed
Scott Galloway · 53:39
take it down to a dad joke.
Kara Swisher · 53:40
Alright.
Scott Galloway · 53:40
His decision to buy this firm and sign this agreement is similar to my decision when I went and decided to have the clam chowder at the September Lexus to remember event. It felt good at the time. It felt good at the time, but it ended up being a terrible decision. By the way, inflation has gotten so bad, Kara, that I now go to car dealerships and take test drives to run errands. For more of these money saving tips, follow me on Twitter.
Kara Swisher · 54:07
Alright, Elon. Get back to rock... Get back to rockets
Scott Galloway · 54:10
and get to pictures. Walked back to you.
Kara Swisher · 54:13
Back to rockets. I don't think you have rockets to nowhere. Get back to rockets and cars.
Scott Galloway · 54:17
I have rockets for Elon, that little bitch. Bitch. Really wants me. You get the sense he wants me?
Kara Swisher · 54:22
No, I don't get the sense. I the sense that that if I asked him to code, he wouldn't come
Scott Galloway · 54:25
in think touch he's drawn to me.
Kara Swisher · 54:27
And... Okay. All right. Okay. All right. Think he's not talking to me.
Scott Galloway · 54:30
Cut with a knife.
Kara Swisher · 54:31
I think he's not talking to you due to you, but that's okay. I lose friends because of you sometimes. I gain them. I gain them. I don't care. Whatever. I don't care.
Scott Galloway · 54:39
Strangers in restaurants go on video saying they like me.
Kara Swisher · 54:43
I know they do.
Scott Galloway · 54:44
Know I they showed my kids that yesterday.
Kara Swisher · 54:45
Us both. They love us both.
Scott Galloway · 54:47
I showed my kids that video yesterday that you sent, and they have the same reaction anytime. They look at me, and they're like, why do they like you? They like I know. I'm like, because of the podcast. And, like, the podcast you listen to on the weekends and make us listen to it? I'm like, yeah. And they're like, and why do they like that? My kids are totally befuddled. They reappoint any success
Kara Swisher · 55:04
at all. Appeal. Everyone in my family gets the appeal.
Scott Galloway · 55:06
No. No. My kids.
Kara Swisher · 55:07
The appeal. They love us, Scott. That's what they talk about, our beautiful relationship. Anyway It's
Scott Galloway · 55:12
not the chemistry that me and Elon have.
Kara Swisher · 55:14
I know. I think it is. I think it's well beyond it. Anyway, that's the show. On that note, we'll be back on Tuesday with more pivot. Scott, read us out and try not to say fuck it, Elon.
Scott Galloway · 55:25
Today's show was produced by Lara Nam and Evan Engel and Taylor Griffin. Ernie Inderthot engineered this episode. Thanks also to Drew Bros and Emile Savario. Make sure you subscribe to the show wherever you listen to podcasts. Thanks for listening to pivot from New York Magazine and Vox Media. We'll be back next week for another breakdown of all things tech and business, an eight ball of cocaine, a cattle prod up my ass, and a Delaware Chancellor Court. These are a few of my favorite things, Kara.
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Scott Galloway · 56:56
See you tomorrow
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