Scott Galloway · 47:24
Mother was going through it.
Kara Swisher · 47:25
Well, there is a sex education course. I don't think you should call it mating one zero one. I feel like that's not gonna work in Florida. Like, you know Yeah.
Scott Galloway · 47:31
But mating dynamics, just how do There's...
Kara Swisher · 47:35
There is sex education. Kids still take that course. My kids
Scott Galloway · 47:38
do that
Kara Swisher · 47:38
one. I think it's called sex ed.
Scott Galloway · 47:40
Uh-huh. Yeah. I don't... Anyways, I I think there's a lot of opportunity to help because when I've had to try... When I've... What's interesting is, you know, people say, well, that's the parents' responsibility. Whenever I have to try to have these conversations with my kids, they literally run for the hills. They're just not interested in getting a lecture from me about interest rates or their
Kara Swisher · 48:02
I had a good conversation with my about that.
Scott Galloway · 48:04
I know. I know. It's because you're a much better parent than me. But, anyways... And you're also... Have much better attention to detail.
Kara Swisher · 48:08
No. I just was like condoms, boys.
Scott Galloway · 48:11
Anyways, but financial literacy in high school, I think it should be, you know, it should be mandatory. And I think kids would be interested. I think kids wanna know... Understand the stock market. I think they wanna understand... They're interested in stocks and bonds, understand why it's important to, you know, to understand the interest on your student loans.
Kara Swisher · 48:29
Savings.
Scott Galloway · 48:30
What's good debt? What's bad debt?
Kara Swisher · 48:32
I do think parents, though, should take it. I I I spent a lot of time, like, recently with Alex because he's sort of on his own for the first time financially over all kinds of things. Like, not just that, like, not just getting on a plane, but there's a there's a mess in your airport. I was like, figure it out. And then he did, like, and I'll give you three tips, but figure it out. And we do that with money. I've been doing that with money for them for a while, like, you know, pay your bill. Like, they're like, what do I do? I'm like, here's... I'll I'll tell you once, and then you have to figure it out from there. We... I recently was discussing mortgages with Louie because, you know, he just... At some point soon, he'll be thinking of saving up for a house or something like that. But I think it's important.
Scott Galloway · 49:14
My mom used to ask me to help her work with her to balance her checkbook. Remember those checkbooks? Like, you'd go through and you'd write a check and you'd write it out and you'd do the math.
Kara Swisher · 49:21
I learned on my own. My mom wasn't very good at that part. But but but the sex stuff, the same thing. It's just... It's all these things. It's it's... Adulting one zero one is actually a great name for a course, you know, and it can include it could include dating. It could include, not sex, but dating. Like, you know what I mean? Could... That relationships. It could include finance, getting an apartment, renting, all kinds of stuff. Hygiene. I know it sounds dumb, but hygiene. Interesting. Do you want me
Scott Galloway · 49:51
to talk
Kara Swisher · 49:52
to your kids about anything? Do you need help?
Scott Galloway · 49:54
Yeah. Yeah. No. You... I we... I need you in India right now. I need to get on a plane right now for the Southwest Coast Of India because I have had it I with have had it.
Kara Swisher · 50:03
Just was like, two things, boys. You be nice to ladies. If you aren't, I'm gonna break your arms and condoms. Thank you. That was my entire discussion. Alright. That's what I... It's your responsibility.
Scott Galloway · 50:13
There you go.
Kara Swisher · 50:13
It's your responsibility as a man. That's what I said. Anyway, and they they were okay. They weren't... They didn't they didn't Makes sense. That's good I was very straightforward with them about it. Anyway, that's that's what we say. Thank you, Jesse. Good. I'm glad you're teaching that. It's really great, and every high school should have it. Alright. So if you've got a question of your own, you'd like answered, send it our way. Go to nymag.com/pivot to submit a question for the show, or call 85551 and be as smart as Jesse. That's a great question. Alright, Scott. One more quick break. We'll be back for predictions. I get so many headaches every month.
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— Predictions segment begins —
Kara Swisher · 52:49
Okay, Scott. Let's have a prediction from you. I don't feel like I've had one in a while. Go for it.
Scott Galloway · 52:54
Yeah. Mine are pretty... This one's pretty boring, and I think I'll agree with it. I think that, two people are gonna have an outsized impact on the election. And and I'm talking our book because we're both progressives here. But, we talked about last week, I think Taylor Swift could be a seminal force in the election with a turnout to vote. I think we're gonna hear her.
Kara Swisher · 53:14
See that poll?
Scott Galloway · 53:15
I didn't.
Kara Swisher · 53:16
One in five Americans believes she's
Scott Galloway · 53:19
Oh, it's a oh, it's a conspiracy.
Kara Swisher · 53:20
Conspiracy. They say she's she's working with the CIA or whoever. It's crazy. One in five and about half of America has heard of the conspiracy theory.
Scott Galloway · 53:28
I don't know. Less than half of America has a passport. There's a lot of weird stuff going on in America. But Taylor Swift, we talked about. But the other one, I was so blown away by, Jon Stewart's inaugural show.
Kara Swisher · 53:41
You liked it. A lot of... Some people criticized. I loved it too, but go ahead.
Scott Galloway · 53:45
I mean
Kara Swisher · 53:45
Go ahead. Tell me why. I agree.
Scott Galloway · 53:47
He hit everyone in the fucking face. I mean, he just said... I mean, the moment when he said... It was just so hilarious when he showed all the clips, all of Biden's cabinet. And he was like, I was with the president today, he was sharp, and he was focused, and he was on point. And then John Stewart just goes, do you have any of that on film? Because we never seem to capture those moments on film. And then he goes after Trump. He's just
Kara Swisher · 54:13
He took a wallop at Trump.
Scott Galloway · 54:15
He's literally... And I'm guilty of this. He has something that I'm struggling to hold on to, and that is pure unfucking filtered truth going after both sides. It is ridiculous that these... You know, perfect is not on the menu here, and he is absolutely hitting both sides hard. And I think he has so much credibility among the people, and there's nothing like humor to soften the bench before the marines come in. The moderates will decide this election, the swing voters. And swing voters immediately put up their screen and go, yeah, whatever partisan. Right? This guy is so is so hard hitting on both sides that I just think a tremendous number of really important voters.
Kara Swisher · 55:00
Well, that's the criticism you got. Let's just let's just address that. They did. They were like, he pokers too. You know, there's not... The the argument is there's not a comparison between an old guy and an old guy who's a fascist, And we get it. I've said that last week. Right?
Scott Galloway · 55:13
But it wasn't... The the... But the story wasn't about fascism. The story was about these guys being too old.
Kara Swisher · 55:18
I know. But he... They were saying he should've he should've noted that one of them is a fascist and and more. That's... I'm just telling you. I'm just
Scott Galloway · 55:27
I I get it. But the the reason why he's so effective
Kara Swisher · 55:30
That's what he got criticized for. I'm just telling you.
Scott Galloway · 55:32
I... I'm sure the right would have said, yeah, but... They should have pointed out that Biden just seems really fucking old. I mean, both sides have their yeah, but that they would have liked John Stewart to do. He was talking about the fact
Kara Swisher · 55:43
He doesn't care. He's not there. He's not there to please you.
Scott Galloway · 55:46
The average age of Americans is 38. I had admiral Stavridis on my show. This guy I commanded... You know, he's been in charge of carrier strike forces. This incredibly impressive man came across as sprying youthfully. I think he's probably late fifties or early sixties. It is insane. Literally insane. And he just needed to point it out on both sides that this is where we ended up. Anyways, I'll I'll bring it back. Taylor Swift you're talking about, I think we're gonna hear the name John... I think John Stewart is gonna play an enormous role in the election and in the discourse over the next, nine months.
Kara Swisher · 56:17
I would agree. I also threaded that. I said this was true. He still got it. He's still fucking got it. And Great. Again, I got whacked by all the lefties and progressives or whatever. And I was like, you know what? He's not here. He's not gonna go change and to try to please us. He's the... He is he is doing his his job and, you know, whatever. You don't have to like it. Don't have to watch it. And by the way, again, they didn't watch it. They didn't watch it. And I'm like, you cannot comment at me unless you saw it. Sorry. I just don't refuse to listen to a word you say, and I'm gonna block you if you do that. One of the things I said... I think he said at the end, which I really resonated with me is, sort of blame game that goes on with everyone feeling like I've gotten, I'm terrified, I'm this. He turned... He said, it's up to fucking you. Every day, you gotta get in there and fight the fight. You can't... You have to stop blaming everybody else. It... It's about... It I I was trying to make this point. They were like, you know, they were attacking the media. Fine. Attack the media. But you know who's... Who it is? It's voters. Go persuade voters. You have tools to persuade voters. The media is not gonna save you. The media is not gonna save you. It's just not... I like... You are... He said this at the end, and it was so articulate. It's like, stop fucking bellyaching and get in
Scott Galloway · 57:34
the Get in the fight. Yeah.
Kara Swisher · 57:35
Get in the fight and do what you want, but stop complaining. And I love that. I thought that was a particularly good
Scott Galloway · 57:42
Outstanding.
Kara Swisher · 57:43
Thing for... Outstanding. Was outstanding.
Scott Galloway · 57:45
Oh my gosh. I watched it on YouTube last night. That was some of the fastest twenty minutes I'd seen.
Kara Swisher · 57:49
And by the way, ratings are up. You can talk about he's old and nobody's... And the decline in these shows. That's a 100% true, but ratings were fantastic for that. It was fantastic for the Super Bowl. It was... People will watch if good shit is happening. That's just the way it is. And it it it rose rather... She's... He's sort of like the Rachel Maddow slot. Right? MSNBC has her, and, and people really like what she does.
Scott Galloway · 58:13
He'll play a much bigger role than Rachel Maddow because moderates put up a screen when they see Rachel. As outstanding as she is, I just
Kara Swisher · 58:20
I agree. But I'm just saying there's
Scott Galloway · 58:21
I'm not I'm not gonna comment on a politics. She shows up with real work. She's an outstanding professional. But he he will have it's it's frightening, and it's true. This election is gonna be decided by 50 to a 100,000 kind of exurban soccer moms in three or four states. And those folks. Persuadable. One, I think they... I I think a lot of younger people are gonna turn out that ordinarily wouldn't turn out if Taylor Swift tells them to. And I think as we go younger, they're more democratic. And two, John Stewart just, I think, increasingly will highlight the truth, and the truth is on our side, Kira.
Kara Swisher · 59:00
He does.
Scott Galloway · 59:00
We have some really unfortunate features about our guy. I I I think it's insane that we have this guy running quite frankly, but he's he's too old, but he's not a fascist, and he's not a criminal. And he's and he's a decent man.
Kara Swisher · 59:16
And he's a good man. And he's been effective. And by the way, your point about youngest administration, you're right. It's a young administration.
Scott Galloway · 59:23
Yeah. And he surrounded himself with youth and vigor. John Stewart will call balls and strikes, and the balls and strikes are on our side over the last... Over the next nine months. And I think a lot of moderates are just gonna listen to this guy. You watch. Trump's gonna go after him and start attacking him because he's gonna realize he's starting to hurt him when he just highlights the truth every week. And the reason why this guy has so much credibility is he's unafraid to go after how fucking insane it is that Biden is running.
Kara Swisher · 59:47
Yeah.
Scott Galloway · 59:47
Yep. And he gets credibility among the moderates. Anyway, I I... Taylor Swift and Jon Stewart.
Kara Swisher · 59:53
I gotta say Jon Stewart's very popular among the young people too. Much more so than you realize, I I would say. Not... It's not just us. It's not old people us.
Scott Galloway · 1:00:01
Not just old people who are on seeking arrangements. Generous bald man with home in Soho who vacations in The Maldives looking for fun girl for for no frills fun.
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Kara Swisher · 1:00:12
Okay. Okay. Anyway, John, good job. You are not irrelevant anymore. Okay, Scott. That's the show. Don't forget to check out our feed on Tuesday, which is a special crossover episode with Esther Perel's. Where should we begin? Scott and I went for couples counseling with Esther, and you can hear all about our special relationship. And we didn't even meet on an app. Was just
Scott Galloway · 1:00:35
me cute.
Kara Swisher · 1:00:36
That's how we met. Cute. In Germany, that's where we met. Auf deuf Deutschland, we met cute. Anyway, please listen to it. It's actually good. Scott, don't feel... You were very vulnerable. You were very vulnerable. It was a beautiful, beautiful time. Anyway, please read us out.
Scott Galloway · 1:00:51
Today's show was produced by Lara Nayman, Zoe Marcus, and Taylor Griffin. Ernie Indertot engineered this episode. Thanks also to Drew Burrows and Mil Savario. Nishat Curwa is Vox Media's executive producer of audio. Make sure you subscribe to the show wherever you listen to podcasts. Thanks for listening to Pivot from New York Magazine and Vox Media. You can subscribe to the magazine at nymag.com/pod. We'll be back next week for another breakdown of all things tech and business care. Have a great weekend.
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