Kara Swisher · 47:27
I would put it. Correct?
Scott Galloway · 47:28
You know what? It's not even... It's not skills. It's insecurity. I need to know what everything that's going on. I kinda need to have that transparency because my stallmate, the only job I've ever had was at Morgan Stanley. And my stallmate stayed at Morgan Stanley and is now vice chairman and has made, I'm considered a successful entrepreneur and has made as much money as me with less volatility in his life. So working for a big organization is sucks in some ways, it has real upside. These platforms are powerful. But startups, what I would say the most rewarding things about startups is you do feel as if you're part of kind of a family. Yeah. There's a sense of camaraderie with small organizations where you know everyone's name, where you really you really celebrate collective victories. I I think they're a ton of fun. Also, do it while you're young because quite frankly, you're not gonna have time for dogs or kids in a startup. Startup is licensed to work eighty hours a week. And being a startup founder means you work one hundred hours a week and you sign the front of checks, not the back of checks. Whenever I've started a company, get to go home come home and tell my partner, yeah, I'm working a hundred hours a week and I need to put another $100,000 into the company. I mean, that's just not fun. And, oh, I don't know how... If it's gonna work or not.
Kara Swisher · 48:41
Let me just say, Christina, I think you should do that that when you're at a young age. I just... Was just... Scott and I were just talking about some career stuff and everything like that. And part of me is like, if I can get to the same place with less work, I might wanna do... You know what I mean? Like, it's a really interesting as you age, not just that. Although, because I've... You and I have both start up companies at advanced stages. Right? So it's not like that that we don't like to do it. But there is, like, a sense of just go for it. I think he's right. You say it's a mid to advanced stage start up. That seems just about right. And you could learn a lot there. At the same time, you could learn a lot at at a BCG too. Like, it's... There... There's no bad choice for you coming out of Cornell in an excellent job market.
Scott Galloway · 49:21
Good problem.
Kara Swisher · 49:22
In an excellent job in an excellent job market. The difficulty, there are lots of statistics show, which is our guest earlier this week said, if you come out in a bad job market, your career suffers over the long term no matter how you slice it. You're coming out in one of the best Yep. Job markets there is. So there is no bad decision here except what do you like to do, you know, for someone who has an advanced degree and is working in biotech, which is fast growing.
Scott Galloway · 49:50
But a great degree from a great university, moving to the Bay Area, working for a biotech company, regardless of what happens, it's good to be her. Did you know... And just a quick aside, did you know in major metros now, women under the age of 30 with college degrees are now making more than their male counterparts? It's finally happening.
Kara Swisher · 50:06
Interesting. Oh, wow.
Scott Galloway · 50:07
It's finally happening. Well, there's
Kara Swisher · 50:08
a talent deficit. There really just is. For some reason, there's a real... That's gonna change, obviously, over time.
Scott Galloway · 50:13
Cool. And in the next five years... Get this. You wanna hear a scary scary stat? In the next five years, for every one male that graduates from college, there's gonna be two females. Two to one female to male grad... College grads over the next five years. Anyways, good for her.
Kara Swisher · 50:29
You know you know the basic facts. Women are better. Women are better. Oh, sorry. Did I say that out loud?
Scott Galloway · 50:34
Yeah. Yeah. One of us can say that.
Kara Swisher · 50:36
I should say that.
Scott Galloway · 50:37
One of us
Kara Swisher · 50:37
can No. They're not. I have no. I have 75% men children. So... But, you know, I think I think, Christina, enjoy yourself. We're glad you like our opinion, really. We're not very good career counselors.
Scott Galloway · 50:51
Keep us posted. Go invent drugs for prostateitis and erectile dysfunction that doesn't draw you out or give you a hangover. Get on the important stuff, Christina.
Kara Swisher · 51:00
TMI, Scott. TMI.
Scott Galloway · 51:02
You know, that's what I yell out now when I'm about to climax. I yell out, I'll have the Stelter Galloway sandwich. Is that sexy?
Kara Swisher · 51:10
I can't believe... Literally, Brian Stelter would would would talk to, like
Scott Galloway · 51:16
He wants nothing to do with me.
Kara Swisher · 51:18
He is the friendliest person I know, like one of them. He talks to every... Hi. Hi. He's like, that.
Scott Galloway · 51:23
And then sent me an email saying, oh, heard you were in the building. Let's catch up some other time. That's literally like every woman I met in the nineties ghosting me.
Kara Swisher · 51:31
Oh, so he made the connection.
Scott Galloway · 51:33
He didn't say let's grab coffee. He, like, tried to say, like, oh, sorry. We can't get together. Like, we can get together. I'm in the building. I'm gonna come find you. And then that was one of those moments where I'm like, should I be stalking anchors in their own workplace?
Kara Swisher · 51:46
We'll see where it goes with CNN plus, which the New York Magazine, which you also work for called Quibi.
Scott Galloway · 51:50
Oh, wait. Who's in episode two? Who's who's got the the Beag interview that's getting all this heat on Twitter?
Kara Swisher · 51:56
Yeah. And me.
Scott Galloway · 51:57
That's right. Kara Swisher, episode two, No Mercy, No Malice on CNN Plu.
Kara Swisher · 52:01
I don't look good in that. You should better make up. Anyway, you've got a question of your own. You'd like answers. Send it our way. Go to nymag.com/pivot to submit a question for the show, or call 85551 Alright, Scott. One more quick break. We'll be back for wins and fails.
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Kara Swisher · 53:48
Okay, Scott. Give us this week's wins and fails and make it snappy.
Scott Galloway · 53:52
Okay. Fails, despite all the hype, the SEC is coming from Musk. The stock's gonna go sideways because the takeout premium has been starched out, and he's gonna get bored with it. In Ukraine, it's just apocalyptic. Crimes against civilians, mass graves, intentionally slaughtering civilians, torture our war crimes. Everyone's been saying that a no fly zone starts World War three. You know what starts World War three? Genocide and appeasement. I'm up for I'm up for... I believe we need to take real risks here to to push back on what is taking place there. Another fail, a near total ban on abortions in Oklahoma, except quote, open quote, except when the health of the mother is is threatened in an emergency. Even the Mormon church is more lenient than this, allowing for abortion. One, if the health of the mother is in danger, doesn't need to be an emergency. Two, in cases of rape, in cases of incest. So this is where the Republican Party is. They've gone right to the Mormon church. And just some quick abortion stats. Mhmm. Sixty percent of women who get abortions already have children. And the top reason they cite is lack of finances, and guess what? Male abandonment. So all of these white guys in the Republican Party who are so vehement against abortion, if they're really serious about reducing abortion... And by the way, it has dropped dramatically. It used to be 29 women per thousand. Now it's thirteen. If they're really serious about reducing abortion, they need to do two things. They need to reinstate the child tax credit, and they need to encourage their other male brothers to be better men. That is how you reduce the number of terminated pregnancies, and this Oklahoma law is scary and doesn't get enough attention because we're so busy talking about, as we should be, genocide and and fucking The Martian going on buying a bunch of Twitter. Anyways, another bit... Another fail, lack of financial literacy cost Americans 350,000,000,000 last year. Overdraft fees, high interest rate loans, only two thirds of Americans 15 to 18 years old passed a financial literacy test in a recent poll by the Financial Educators Council. I think we need to get serious about creating some level of financial literacy among high school seniors because it ends up costing them the rest of their lives poverty if you don't understand basic interest rates and basic financial literacy. My wins... I apologize. I have somebody here.
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Kara Swisher · 56:12
Oh my god. Keep going. Quick. Quick. Quick.
Scott Galloway · 56:14
Calyris Award, the war correspondent, has a 1.5 four year old child. She was on with Anderson Cooper on his parenting show on CNN plus.
Kara Swisher · 56:21
Mhmm. I saw it.
Scott Galloway · 56:21
It was nice. Said she's grateful, supportive husband, grandma, and grandpa, and nannies. Teamwork takes a village. And she's a journalist journalist doing important work documenting
Kara Swisher · 56:31
Jeez.
Scott Galloway · 56:31
War crimes of Putin such that he can be convicted, which he should be. Lindsey Adario, who you've talked about, the NYT photojournalist, took striking images... Took pictures of striking images She's in
Kara Swisher · 56:42
such a... She's a lovely person too. Amazing.
Scott Galloway · 56:45
Shot a few feet from her, risking her own life to document these war crimes, and it's important that we document these war crimes, and they are war crimes. Big winner in my view, Mitt Romney. Also, Lisa Murkowski and Susan Collins voting to confirm Ketanji Jackson. You know what the danger of this polarization in Twitter and Facebook algorithms and gerrymandering? When Ronald Reagan nominated Sandra Day O'Connor to the Supreme Court, which was a was a historic nomination, you know what the vote in the Senate was to confirm her?
Kara Swisher · 57:13
What? Like
Scott Galloway · 57:14
99 to zero. Now where are we? Another historic nomination of the most qualified associate justice in history. We managed to get three Republicans. Mitt Romney Yeah. Is the same one in the Republican Party now. So kudos to Mitt. And then I just wanna end on a light note. I will end here. I think the the silly things that family did for April Fools' Day, things like a bag of M and M's filled with grapes.
Kara Swisher · 57:42
On Twitter.
Scott Galloway · 57:42
Despite being overwhelmed, parents find time to bring joy to their children. Agreed. I'm trying to do fun things for my kids when they come home for school... From school, treasure hunts and practical jokes, because they remember that stuff the rest of their lives. So my big win is to silly things from parents.
Kara Swisher · 57:57
Yeah. They sometimes don't like it. I wanted to take my... One of my son's birthday is next week, and he's turning 17. I wanna take him to Benihana, which he used to love when he was a kid, he was like, no, mom.
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Kara Swisher · 58:06
So I was like, that would be fun. We'll sing. And he's like, no, mom.
Scott Galloway · 58:09
Do you any wins and fails, Kara?
Kara Swisher · 58:11
I have just... You know, what's happening in Russia... What the Russians have done. What a thuggish, horrible, they should go to jail. This is just... And they're they're they're now capturing text between... Or text or communications between Russian military people saying they're doing just what they were doing, and then they're lying about it. They can they can go to hell, and they will.
Scott Galloway · 58:29
History has a habit. Whenever there's a mass grave involved, typically Yeah. The people who reverse engineer to those decisions end up upside down, naked Upside. In a town square, dead.
Kara Swisher · 58:41
I doubt that's gonna happen here. I'm sorry to tell you. I don't think this is
Scott Galloway · 58:44
gonna happen. I think these folks have crossed, I think the whole world has seen them cross a line.
Kara Swisher · 58:49
Yeah. It's bizarre. It's... They didn't certainly didn't have to do it this way for sure. My last win is, I am interviewing Michelle Yeoh, which is why I have to go soon, but the movie Everything Everywhere and All at Once is a wonderful movie.
Scott Galloway · 59:02
What's it about?
Kara Swisher · 59:03
It's about love. I can't even explain it to you. It's like being John Malkovich if you wanted a tone of a movie. Is this
Scott Galloway · 59:09
a lesbian thing?
Kara Swisher · 59:11
No. This a Christmas story thing? There is a... No. No. It's so... It was
Scott Galloway · 59:16
just Really?
Kara Swisher · 59:16
Lisa Marsh. It is a wonderful big spirit movie and it... I can't ex... It's about a woman who is in a multiverse and she's... And one, she's an action star, and another, she owns a laundromat and has a sort of sad life....
Scott Galloway · 59:30
Very
Kara Swisher · 59:30
interesting. In another one, she has hot dog hands and is is a lesbian is a lesbian with Jamie Lee Curtis. In another, she's...
Scott Galloway · 59:37
Jamie Lee Curtis
Kara Swisher · 59:38
is in it? She's wonderful. Everybody in it is fantastic. I'm so excited. I have loved Michelle Yeoh forever. And so, this is a great movie. And I... And and speaking of strong women, I rewatched Hacks again, which is having a second season with Jean Smart.
Scott Galloway · 59:55
Great series. HBO. Great series.
Kara Swisher · 59:57
It is so wonderful. And Jean's... Oh, I really wanna talk to her. I have to talk to her.
Scott Galloway · 1:00:02
But Ask where daddy's going tomorrow.
Kara Swisher · 1:00:04
Where are you going? You have two seconds because I'm getting
Scott Galloway · 1:00:06
Daddy's going to Brazil to surf with his friends. And when I say surf, mean hold on to a sliver of fiberglass for dear life so I can say I went surfing. Okay. I'm going to the South Of Brazil tomorrow.
Kara Swisher · 1:00:15
Alright. You have a good time. And I'm going nowhere. Anyway, Scott, that's the show. We'll be back on Tuesday with more pivot. Will you please read us out?
Scott Galloway · 1:00:25
Did you miss the dog? Did you miss the dog?
Kara Swisher · 1:00:28
I did. I did. I did. I did. You need... I needed
Scott Galloway · 1:00:31
you to Finally.
Kara Swisher · 1:00:31
The Elon thing, and I I can't believe you took time out of our strong relationship on the most important news of of recent moments.
Scott Galloway · 1:00:39
Okay. I was literally in DC
Kara Swisher · 1:00:41
You missed interviewing me.
Scott Galloway · 1:00:42
Interviewing senator Amy Klobuchar. And when I read the news, I'm like, I gotta blow off senator Klobuchar and go back on pivot. I was gonna I was gonna photobomb the episode. I was so
Kara Swisher · 1:00:52
I know.
Scott Galloway · 1:00:52
Just so horny to talk about Elon and Twitter.
Kara Swisher · 1:00:54
Miss me.
Scott Galloway · 1:00:55
I do. I always miss you. I like you. I like your company. Anyways, today's show is produced by Lara Naiman, Evan Engel, and Taylor Griffin. Ernie Intertaut engineered this episode. Thanks also to Drew Burrows and Neil Silverio. Make sure you subscribe to the show wherever you listen to podcasts. Thanks for listening to Pivot from New York Magazine and Vox Media. We'll be back next week for another breakdown of all things tech and business. Your kids know you love them. They will remember the silly things you did. Do something silly. It feels fun. Something silly.
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Scott Galloway · 1:02:26
tomorrow
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